Nearfields for audiophile listening?

Damned dangerous, in the wrong hands. And you can be sure that it will reach the wrong hands. Imagine... stressed-out audiophiles obsessing over millisecond alignment!

Otherwise... neat!

 

Ok, I have not bought the V2108s, because the shop had a wrong price on their website. More time for demoing speakers

Got my Klipsch on stands in the nearfield now and wow! The muddiness is gone, soundstage is there now, depth, imaging, all new.

Equilateral triangle is a bit of a hassle because of my 27" screen. I'd like to sit a little more backward for a good centered stage, but then I am too far from the keyboard and mouse. Need to get a new desk with more depth, lol.

I read a lot of praise about Primacoustics recoil stabilizers and will get a pair of these for decoupling.

 

primaacoustic are MUCH less effective then sorbothane hemisphere and cost 5 times more. I have both here. primaacoustic kind of a rip off

 

Too bad the sorbothane king is gone, otherwise he'd advise you to sorbothane the housing too with a suitable durometer.

The Quested distributor in Singapore has ignored my queries so far, so I still have no clue where to figure out how they sound like in person.

 

This has to sound AMAZING

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/LSR705P

 

I hear you. Actually I had your earlier post in this thread concerning sorbothane in mind, but I was hesitant to ask because of some weird worries about derailing the thread and taking too much and not being able to give much back in this forum. Whatever, I'l read up on this.

Primacoustic recoil stabilizers get a lot of praise over at gearsluts and are not available in Germany because of some law regulations concerning the foam. I don't know if that's because of environment or health issues, or just bureaucratic madness.

 

You could look at isoacoustic stands. My neighbour uses them and they do make a good difference by decoupling and raising the speakers higher off a desk

 

I've been looking at them for ages! At least, on the internet. One day I might even buy.

 

lot of praise and proof of their effectivness is 2 different things
I see often isoacoustic mentioned which is what we have and some world reknowned acoustician was saying that tennis balls would work technically better, by orders of magnitude. sorbothane again by a order of magnitude better then tennis balls.

primacoustic and iso acoustic looks nice but they dont work better then rubber mat.

 

Is that your experience, Murphy?

I've allowed myself to be taken in by the isoacoustic sales line that it is not just isolation, but controlling the speaker movement to be forward backward, rather than all over the place, thus minimising blurring of sound. In fact, this impresses me more than isolation does. But it is all in my head: I've not actually heard them.

 

Doppler effect damping sounds fun. But why not control forward backwards motion as well though. Strange marketing line.

 

Don't they lessen it? I think the idea is to get as much of the energy as possible coming out of the speaker along the correct axis, but the reaction to the action (ie some backwards movement of the cabinet) is inevitable, but better if disciplined.

I'm not good at maths or physics, so please pick holes in my understanding, but be gentle!

 

Ideally, it makes more sense to me if you want to lessen movement in all directions, rather than lessening side to side but allowing it to move along the displacement axis. Just sounds strange to me, although I certainly don't mind being corrected.

I don't see other manufacturers talking about directional damping.

 

I always just laugh and walk away from youtube "demonstrations" of anything audio, but as the demo on their site needed no expectations of actual sound experience, only comparison, it seemed to make sense to me: sound was clearer on the isoacoustic stands.

If you tell me that I am more impressed than I should be by that demo, you wouldn't be the first!

 

I have a buddy who went through all the usual suspects Auralex, Primacoustics, Isoacoustics, etc. and he says the only one that worked for him was the Primacoustics monitor stand. I suspect it was just the particular way in which his speakers were coupling into his desk. I'm sure a cheaper solution can be made with your own steel plate and good foam, but the aesthetics wouldn't be there.

I have Isoacoustics myself and like them.

 

auralex, primaacoustic, iasoacoustic are all bad and works less well then appropriate hemisphere sorbothane or sylomer. by a order of magnitude.

yes, I have isoacoustic and sorbothane.

isoacoustic are just not special nor even decently good at decoupling compared to sylomer or sorbothane properly loaded
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/11285701-post2323.html
https://www.gearslutz.com/board/11263374-post2275.html

https://www.gearslutz.com/board/mastering-forum/920196-inexpensive-speaker-tweak-works.html

 

Thanks @murphythecat. Links followed and read.

Funnily enough I have some [domestic-]heavy-duty vibration absorbers under my desk --- but just because I needed to raise it up that much. They were originally bought for an errant washing machine that could not be balanced and shook a ridiculous amount. They prevented it from knocking the house down. It didn't sound much better.

 

Isoacoustics aren't even stable. That is, if you're using them to actually raise the speakers more than a couple inches. It's easy enough to attach hemispheres to the bottom of the Isoacoustics footers, but the fact that they're basically unstable/wobbly Tinker Toys supporting your speakers is a bit very disappointing. Overpriced by at least a factor of 2.

 

ok, ok... you guys are putting me off .

The only thing I can say is that they are not very expensive. Time to remind myself...

However cheap, if it doesn't work it's too expensive!

 

The design of the isoacoustics is meant to move back and forth though. Maybe too much, but that's what I remember from one of their videos. Meh, I just like it for the ability to adjust since I'm always switching things around, though I wish they had an in-between pole height. I have some heavy ATC speakers on mine with the tall poles and wobble isn't really an issue.