Magni 3 released

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  1. PacoTaco

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    They're not really a cheapo box, but yah. At least the Vali 2. I got an improvement from selling the lyr2 and getting the Magni 3.
     
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    I personally couldn't say, depends on how much dynamic slam matters to you. I haven't heard the Vali 2 or Magni 3, so I have no idea on them, I would ask another for comparisons on them. I only owned the Lyr 2, Valhalla 2 and Magni 1. The Magni surprised me on a better DAC. Actually to me the Valhalla 2 was the biggest disappointment, it did definitely had better treble, nice smooth sound(albeit a bit lean compared to what I'm used to, I like some meat to my sound), and soundstaging than the Lyr 2 but it came at the cost of dynamic slam and the V2 isn't very responsive to tube rolling compared to the Lyr 2. The lack of heft was what honestly what disappointed me about the V2. I could of just had poor pairings with the DAC and headphones on the V2. The Lyr 2 is the most dynamically intense of the the Schiit amps I tried. I actually just ordered the Magni 3.
     
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    Zed,
    I'm not familiar enough with your headphones to know how a Magni 3 would work with them, but I don't remember the Lyr 2 to have the clarity and imaging that I'm hearing with Bifrost Multibit/M3/HD650. It's possible that the Lyr 2 is going to have more slam. There's probably some trade offs between the 2 amps.
     
  4. Zed Bopp

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    Thanks for the help, guys! I'll maybe just have to get the M3 or V2 and just see what I like. It's pretty much impossible to try Schiit gear in my country.
     
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    Don't https://www.schiit-europe.com/ ship to Sampoland? They should be able to sort you out.

    I've had to order stuff from Schiit in the US before (the Motherschiit) when the UK dealer has been slow getting stock, and that worked pretty well, too- but the European dealer above should be quicker and probably cheaper on shipping for you.
     
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  6. Zed Bopp

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    Yeah, they ship just fine to "Funland", that's where I got my ModiBit & Lyr 2 from. I basically don't like to order stuff just to try it out (and send back).

    Which one would you guys go for when in need of non-wimpy bass from HD800 and in need of some better clarity & soundstage? Thanks.

    P.S. I'm pretty sure I'm getting the new Dekoni pads for the 800 when they come out, esp if they lose even some of that 6k.
     
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    Ok, a quick update - I received a replacement Magni 3 to address the volume pot whooshing issue and...it also exhibits the same phenomenon, and at the exact same spot where the original Magni 3 did when it was brand new. I am now 100% sure that this is a common quirk of this model and is not something that people should replace their units for. My bet would be that it is caused by some kind of static electricity buildup within the volume pot that gets worse with time or with dry climatic conditions.

    The amp sounds absolutely amazing though.
     
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  8. Zed Bopp

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    Why is that text black, though?
     
  9. rlow

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    Black is the new black, didn't you know that?

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    Ooops...my mistake. Thanks.
     
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    Oh yeah, I think my Vali 2 does the same thing. Only with sine sweeps that reach close to clipping though. It doesn't happen with music so I don't really care
     
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    I went ahead an pulled the trigger on a Magni 3. For $99, why not? We'll see how my K702/650Kiss like it fed from IDSD BL and Modi Multibit.
     
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    So I got the Auteur, Metrum Amethyst, and ampsandsound Kenzie from Zach today. Just something weird I noticed...

    The Amethyst vs. Modi Multibit (both through the Magni 3) was a bigger gap in performance than the Magni 3 vs. Kenzie. That's not to say the Kenzie isn't a pretty big step over the Magni 3 (bigger soundstage, better tonality, and better separation being key differences,) but there was just straight up detail missing in songs with the Modi Multibit that I could hear clearly with the Amethyst. The background was blacker, the imagery was better, the resolve was quite an improvement, and it actually seemed to nail the tone that the Modi Multibit was trying to get.

    This doesn't seem that relevant, but point I'm trying to make is this: I heard the differences between the two dacs clearly with the Magni 3 through the Auteur AND the HD580.

    If that isn't a damn good endorsement, I don't know what is. In the very least though, it convinced me that the Yggdrasil is a more worth chunk out of my budget than going with a more expensive amplifier.
     
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    In the US for the next 20 days, Magni 3 ordered...it's cheap, so...

    Ali
     
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    I found the Magni 3 very listenable with my HD650, the sound is clean and clear, nothing seems to be overemphasized. The treble especially seems much improved over the Magni 2U. The M3 isn't the most resolving amp around, but I found it to be excellent for the price, with the 650. The TH-X00 was another story though, the bass was so loose and boomy, I found them pretty much unlistenable. I wonder if others have had more success with this pairing.
     
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    I own both of those headphones, and brought the M3 back home for the weekend to use with the Fostex. HD-650s are currently at work. I didn't have the same experience as you. I thought the TH-X00 were a lot of fun and the "V" curve was slightly less pronounced than with my previous amp. There was lots of detail without being harsh. I'm using a Yggdrasil DAC at home so maybe this made the difference? What DAC are you using?
     
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    I'm using a Modi Multibit, it works fine with the X00 if I use a different amp.
     
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    The Magni 3 is really an awesome amp! However, the sub-bass and treble fall off. Using K702M's with a Sys switching from Modi Multibit to iDSD BL pronounces this weakness the greatest. Followed with a quick listen on the iDSD BL integrated amp made this assumption clear as day. With the HD650 Kiss it is easier to deal with, still easy to pick up though. Magni 3 has not as much slam and bass texture as Jot using Modi Multibit, which the Jot is godly at. Magni 3 also isn't forward and harsh using the iDSD as source either, actually quite enjoyable. The iDSD was brutal as a source to Jot. You could listen to this amp for days without fatigue. If Schiit could get this amp with full dynamic range.. whew. I may sound critical but it is seriously a total monster of an amp for $99. The treble is smoooooth. Great musical listen.
     
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    Perhaps a dumb question, however, I have never owned an amp with a low- and high-gain mode:

    Is there any rule of thumb for what you should select depending on your headphones? Or is there no real audible difference (apart from perhaps noise with sensitive phones on high gain) and you just select that which gives you enough play on the volume pot for your needs?
    I am not sure why there would be a difference if there is, but then again, I am not familiar with how these magic sound boxes work.

    In my case I am using HD650s and feel like I have enough play in the volume in low-gain mode, though the pot is fairly far around.
     
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    For most intents and purposes, just use whichever gain gives you the best range of use on the volume pot.

    Otherwise, typically lower gain is done by changing (increasing) feedback and can possibly be audible, then pick whatever you prefer.
     

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