Comments on Profile Post by Cellist88

  1. scapeinator1
    scapeinator1
    I think yes.
    Feb 20, 2018
  2. Xecuter
    Xecuter
    yes, things sound diffuse or over panned.
    Feb 20, 2018
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  3. Cellist88
    Cellist88
    Its because I found that though everything sounded massive and the soundstage was huge on the c128 filter on the soekris, but certain frequencies didn't feel balanced because it was too deep and too panned. Also led to some softness in sound. Worked well for headphones but its too much for studio monitors. Back on stock filters now, but i'm missing the scale of sound from the community filters.
    Feb 20, 2018
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  4. Melvillian
    Melvillian
    Yeah for me the HD800is too much. Just sounds strange
    Feb 20, 2018
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  5. scapeinator1
    scapeinator1
    I think this might be because some high freq don't transmit as well as low freq over distance. So simulating a wide soundstage does mean the loss of some details because that is what would happen in real life.
    Feb 20, 2018
  6. dmckean44
    dmckean44
    @Cellist88 That's interesting. I've always liked a big soundstage and every single filter for the Soekris, weather stock or community sounds smaller than the Gungnir Multibit soundstage.
    Feb 20, 2018
  7. BenjaminBore
    BenjaminBore
    Not at this level. The issue, at least in terms of headphones, is stage proportion and cohesiveness scaling with size, along with maintaining good layering and image precision. For example in some cases where there is a very wide stage there tends to be a smaller and more distant centre image, and try as you might EQ won’t bring back the mids in these cases.
    Feb 21, 2018
  8. ButtUglyJeff
    ButtUglyJeff
    I think we all are accepting of the limiting factor of headphones. At least in terms of limited staging compared to speakers, to the point of assuming it will exist. Then something like the HD800 shows up, and to some (including me) it sounds "artificial" in its broad staging. Expectation bias at play maybe...
    Feb 21, 2018
  9. songmic
    songmic
    Listening to K1K with Realiser or OOYH will probably yield what is probably the widest soundstage possible with any headphone. However, having an overly wide, diffuse soundstage with little depth is a turnoff even for a soundstage freak like me.
    Feb 21, 2018
  10. 9suns
    9suns
    Poorly set up omni-directional speakers
    Feb 21, 2018
  11. Priidik
    Priidik
    EC tube amps make soundstage larger than it needs to be without the drawbacks. Dac filters which attempt to gain soundstage size will give at some other areas. HD800 soundstage is not too large, it's just diffuse and too open (meaning the high freq contribution to soundstage is out of proportion).
    Feb 21, 2018
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  12. Melvillian
    Melvillian
    Yeah last time I heard an HD800 was through an EC amp. My AF makes even the Clear sound open and wide. I think that’s why I generally disagree with people saying the Focal headphones have small headstages.
    Feb 21, 2018