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    Grahad2 Red eyes from too much anime

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    A B350 motherboard with a 1600X/1700 + GPU of choice is a pretty cheap all rounder rig. Gamers are still better served with Intel though. Still waiting for more choices of mATX boards though...
     
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    purr1n Desire for betterer is endless.

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    Nice. The price is right too.

    Does the 5 series come with those awesome heatsinks?
     
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    Just built a Ryzen rig for work today. Pretty excited to get it up and running, but forgot to order my M.2 NVMe SSD.
     
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    What is the rest of your system like? And what is your Intel system like?

    I'm still rocking my I5 2500k with a recently purchased gtx 1070 right now. I'd like to build a new PC build but it's the same old dilemma. Should I get something that's extremely good for gaming now (7700k), get something that may be better for the future (Ryzen), or wait for more significant improvements (Coffee Lake or Zen+, 10nm seems too far away).
     
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    purr1n Desire for betterer is endless.

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    Depends what you do more: play 3D games at high-medium resolution / graphics quality -or- transcode pirated movies and porn?
     
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    Assuming that 1070 is for gaming, then most games still don't make a lot of use of more than 4 cores, though when games eventually start supporting DX12 that will change. We're still hamstrung by console specs for the most part.

    IPC hasn't moved forward much since the 2500K, at least not for gaming. An overclocked 2500K is still plenty, if you're that way inclined. I'm still running an i7 920 2.6@4ghz and it's plenty. PCI Express 2.0 on older systems could conceivably become a bottleneck before the CPU.
     
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    What heatsinks? The stock cooler on my 1700 works but temps aren't fantastic. I cut temps by a good 10C with my Noctua NH-D14.
     
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    @Marvey may be referring to the RGB Wraith Spire or is mistaking it for the larger Wraith Max.
    http://www.eteknix.com/amd-preparing-r7-1800x-1700x-wraith-max-coolers/

    The R5s that come with Wraith Spires or the smaller Wraith Stealth do not have the RGB ring light.
     
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    Grahad2 Red eyes from too much anime

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    1600X doesn't have a heatsink, but 1600 and 1500X comes with Spire (without the RGB light) and 1400 comes with the Stealth.
    [​IMG]
     
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    Galm Still looking for Little Red Riding Hood

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    As a PSA for anyone interested in Ryzen, the cpus are heavily ram dependant. Far more so than intel. Get as high as you reasonably can without blowing your budget.

    When I was testing Ryzen stuff initially the ram speeds the boards supported were low... It's been rising, and gains are still rising with it. This is unlike current Intel cpus that benefit a little, but over like 2666MHz of decently timed ram the gains dimish fast unless you have sli.

     
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    3200MHz is the current sweetspot, beyond it timings are more important than frequency. Single rank B-die ICs are guaranteed to hit that and 3466 isn't hard either with AGESA 1.0.0.6.
     
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    Galm Still looking for Little Red Riding Hood

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    I'll have to double check, but I'm not sure AMD boards even support some of the 4000+ MHz ram that intel can use.

    Beyond 3200 though I agree price/performance plummets and good timings are hard to find.
     
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    They can support the 40x multiplier now but you won't be able to boot with 4000MHz. Only Z170/Z270 boards are capable of this, X99 still struggles to achieve 3500MHz let alone anything above there.

    Good timings can be entered manually assuming you have good ICs like Samsung B-Die. Best I can do so far with my dual rank Hynix ICs (16GBx2 kit) is 3066MHz 14-16-16-16-32-54-GD (1.5T ish).

    Basically buying any kit that is 3466MHz or higher from G.Skill or Corsair should guarantee B-Die ICs on your sticks.
     
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    Galm Still looking for Little Red Riding Hood

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    Yeah that's correct. Sorry I was still thinking about booting with it where yeah it's limited. That's gonna be quite a good kit on your machine.

    It'll be interesting to see what X299 will be able to do with ram, I'm guessing above X99 but I'm not sure how much it'll matter on the intel cpus. Kaby Lake X though... Ugh. Just overpriced quad cores.
     
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    purr1n Desire for betterer is endless.

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    OK guys. Putting together a new computer. What AMD chip and board? Need high value. Also, what graphics board?
     
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    Galm Still looking for Little Red Riding Hood

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    What purposes?

    Super important for helping you out.

    Do you game? If so what res and fps?
     
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    Without knowing your use case I'll throw the following at you: Ryzen 5 1600 with an ASUS Prime B350-Plus motherboard, this kit of ram (I know it's more expensive than the motherboard but DDR4 is very expensive right now and this kit should guarantee you get the rated speed out of the box).

    If you feel you need 8 cores you can jump up to the Ryzen 7 1700 or if you feel you need an additional 4 USB 3.1 ports you can jump up to an X370 motherboard like the X370 Prime.

    I highly recommend going to a Microcenter if you have one nearby, they usually sell CPUs at a loss to bring customers in and have good CPU+motherboard deals on.

    On the GPU front you've come in at a pretty bad time, the RX 570 and 580 are completely sold out, the GTX 1060 6GB and GTX 1070 have jumped in price quite significantly as well due to this Ethereum mining craze. Based on RRP and non-inflated prices I would say currently the GTX 1070 is the best bang for buck but in the current state a GTX 1080 is cheaper than a 1070! Unless you plan on spending around $550 for a GTX 1080 you'll be limited to the likes of the 1050 Ti or RX 560.
     
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    Yeah I'd honestly say hold off if at all possible on the gpus... Prices are laughable at the moment.

    Unless you wanted a monster gaming rig where 1080 Ti prices are holding.

    Also it's so awesome to see a 6 core new cpu at 210 bucks :)

    My only other blind two cents for this build is if it is somehow for gaming I'd still go intel. A 6 core Intel cpu will overclock a lot farther an AMD which is important for gaming where clockspeed is still king. Otherwise AMD AMD AMD.
     
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    Grahad2 Red eyes from too much anime

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    What the hell is that $90 expert installation.

    There's still cheap 1060s, but they're the 3GB versions. The 6GB versions are stupid expensive. There are some combo's but I only see 1700X so far.
     

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