Chord Hugo 2

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    Mojo is good. Prices have gone down and at used prices, not a bad deal for what it is: a ultra-transportable all-in-one. Original Hugo was blah: decent plankton, but super duper wide stage with no depth, lean tonality, and worse of all, 583% flat and boring. Hugo TT wasn't that great either - performance was around the level of a ChiFi Matrix DAC for $559 (I am dead serious, not joking). DAVE: I have not compared head to head, something that needs to be done before I can say anything more definitive about it. Hugo 2 I have not heard.

    You have a good point regarding your requirements. Not much out there in this niche of transportable all-in-one's without the need for power adapters. The CHORD portables fill a niche, and since there are no real competitors in the niche, we get the privilege of paying up the wazoo.

    You may also want to consider the Sony ZX2 / PHA-3 stack. Extra device with ZX2, but self contained playback without the need for a computer. Or maybe just the PHA-3 alone. People forget about the PHA-3. Sony is horrible with their marketing outside of Japan.

    BTW, I am curious about the iFi Black Black over Mojo?
     
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    I believe @Torq has (or had) both the iDSD BL and the Mojo together (at some point)?
    (Found it: http://www.superbestaudiofriends.or...ortable-dac-amp-comparisons.3886/#post-118942)


    FWIW, I go iFi silver > Mojo, but only because it matched my sonic preferences and use case. Not as full in the mids as the Chord, but with a bit more depth and a good deal more width in the headstage, slightly crisper imaging, and had better performance off straight-up USB due to the built-in purifier. The 3D crossover is fun with movies and some tracks, as is the bass boost. Also, the fact that you can charge a smartphone off it saved my ass when I nearly got lost in an unfamiliar part of town once.

    What I kinda want to see is a comparison between iDSD Silver and the Black Label. Kinda doubt I'll go down that path, but am curious how much of an effect the refinements in design have had.
     
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    Well this thread is almost dead, and I was wondering if you had a chance to listen H2 and compare with other gears. Some new SBAF intel it’s good until I decided myself to understand HF opinions as a delusional matter...
     
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    Nope still have one ordered... I'll be at RMAF with my iems so I'll try it then. If by some miracle it finally arrives (like a month+ late) to my dealer in the next couple days I'll get it in person from him as he'll also be at RMAF. It should be soon... According to Chord it'll arrive two weeks ago... So that's neat. It'll be fun talking to Chord reps while being salty about their awful supply chain on top of their awful prices :p
     
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    For me, I didn't like the form factor of the BL - it is a dense, long brick. The Mojo is a much shorter dense brick. Also the BL needs a female USB-A cable (assuming you're using USB, which I would going portable) which makes it even longer. The Oppo has the advantage of not requiring the Apple dongulatorCable™ and it has about a perfect form factor, but I didn't care for the sound - was edgy with IEMs and stuffy with my AFOs (had to use higher gain setting). Mojo is smaller than you think, BL is larger than you think. If you're an iPhone user, the dongulatorCable™ is a pita unless you want to go for a high-priced off-shore hack.

    No perfect solution. But there is no perfect anything, so chasing perfection is a fool's errand. I should know as I have a massive fool points tally...
     
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    I was there for that presentation. To be honest it was pretty cool. He talked a lot about why he himself didn't understand why 1 million taps made such a difference.

    He's really passionate in person, he comes across far more confrontation-ally on the forums than in person. He's not in charge of Chord's pricing, so I don't really have a problem with him. I generally like the way Chord products sound, it's just too much. So his designs clearly aren't invalid. Even here people know DAVE is a good dac. Just like 5x too much money haha.

    My Hugo 2 is also finally with in my grasp. Not going to post impressions for a while, but I have Mojo and Yggdrasil/Raggy to compare with directly.

    (Though no, it's not going to be a head fi 5 stars...)
     
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    I also find the technical stuff really interesting. He has a tendency though to present subjective "results" of his listening tests as fact, e.g.
    • R2R (especially NOS) must sound bad because of timing errors. etc. I'm guessing he doesn't own a Yggdrasil ;)
    • Watts technology = greater depth. Interesting that @HitmanFluffy described the headstage of DAVE as "flatter than Keira Knightley". Clearly we don't all hear things the same way.
     
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    Yeah... That's where the whole talk falls apart for me. I actually think his approach to the sampling theorem is more valid than the complete opposite approach (apodizing).

    But, claiming he keeps hearing "morez depth" for each decrease in small signal modulation (350dB...) is not enough evidence.
     
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    Hope you are enjoying your hugo2. When you have a solid opinion, please share with us a hugo2 vs Yggdrasil dac comparison. I don’t trust head fi reviews... I’m a bit paranoid :pirate07:
     
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    You sell it and buy something else. You might end up with a better dac and more money in your pocket. Win win.

    Seriously, I would not dream of trying to tweak the power supply of a Hugo2.
     

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