Marvey's Cable Rolling Adventures

Discussion in 'Modifications and Tweaks' started by Marvey, May 7, 2016.

  1. Marvey

    Marvey Loves sex and records

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    I think we agree on Mojo after I went back and compared to more DACs. It's OK. Proper price point should be $199, but with an allowance of $100 for self-contained portability. $299. OK, maybe $349 for the respectable brand name and color extravaganza.
     

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    Try these. They sound better than Mogami or Canare.
     
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    I disagree and I've built cable with Belden 8402 in the past.
     
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    Mogami 2549 is steely. Too much graininess in the upper mids and lower treble. Mid-bass lacks definition/makes farts. IMO.

    over shorter runs Belden 8402 has bettered my prior fav, VHAudio's V-twist with Furu RCAs.

    What connectors were you using on the 8402? Did you connect the shield on both ends?
     
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    Silver mono-crystals or 8N purity copper... Balderdash!

    I... want... carbon nanotubes! They transport electricity faster, and with much less fuss (i.e. less analog noise, signal attenuation, better efficiency, less heat, etc.). While with copper the electrical the signal goes through the wire, with carbon nanotubes the signal goes over the tube's walls, thus encountering fewer impediments in its way. Ain't this perfect?!

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    More seriously though, I'm curious if there are carbon nanotubes applications in audio. Does anyone make nanotube cables, and has anyone tried them? (This validly qualifies for "adventures".) And what are the cost implications of these weirdos for our wallets?
     
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    @Iandroni

    If you wanted to setup a hifi-system on Mars and needed to pay ~ $4600 for every kg you sent there I'm sure nanotubes would be the way to go.
     
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    You're talking to a cable unbeliever. I think you're trying to convince the wrong person.
     
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    This thread makes me laugh out loud…

    Thanks for the chuckles.

    JJ :)
     
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    maybe I should go measure something?
     
  11. Marvey

    Marvey Loves sex and records

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    You can measure R, L, and C.

    FWIW, I simultaneously believe and don't believe in cables. If that makes any sense.
     
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    Schrodinger's cables...
     
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    What Marvey said and what this thread has turned into.
     
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    Maybe a starquad cable might do the trick for most folks:
    http://www.10audio.com/5_xlr_cables.htm


    I tried the Canare L-4E6S Star Quad XLR(as interconnect between Ygg > Master 9): it is a very neutral sounding cable.
     
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    Marv is like the electric monk, able to hold two contradictory beliefs.
     
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    I'm not sure if this at all relates, but I think if say, all cables ranged between $10-100, there would be a lot more belief in cables. Cables tend to cost around 100-1000x what seems like a reasonable price, regardless of what they do.

    That said, I think cables are important part of maximizing what you get out of a system, but with two caveats:
    1) Your system should be very responsive to minor changes for it to be remotely worth it
    2) Cost does not in any way correlate to quality

    Take my ridiculous system. Would better cables improve it? Without doubt. Does anyone hear my system and go: "wow, Adam really needs to update his cables"? No.
     
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    Interesting find. At € 1200 for an elixir (or 1K if bought online), this doesn't really go much above some top of the line Audioquest cables... Though this can certainly be hair-raising, we've seen worse price tags in this thread for much more dubious technologies. I for one am quite curious how they perform, though don't intend to get one anytime soon.
     
  19. Armaegis

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    Again, the metallurgist in me wants to strangle someone with a cable. In the meantime, let me go grind up some pencil leads and get a bucket of rubber cement.
     
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    Armaegis are carbon nanotubes better than graphene used in the cerious cables?
     

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