I kind of like these cans. For one, the pads don't feel like cheap-crap. I mean, they probably are, but they don't feel like so. My HD202 pads feel lots cheaper. They also feel pretty sturdy. The weight is just right. Light. Clamp is relatively strong, but not too tight. It's what you would expect for a close type can more or less. It can get hot inside the cups. As far as looks. Well. I like them. But I could not find a picture of a hot chick wearing them, so probably chicks don't share my aesthetics opinion of this. This, sadly, is the best I can do as far as a picture of these in action (Maybe Tyll took the picture, so don't look at me). Anyhow, how do these sound? For $17 something, Awesome. Sure, there is some little bit of wonkyness, but no horrible tremble nasties, and bass is full-bodied and eloquent. I can wear these for a long time and not feel the urge to throw them against the wall. Easy to drive, easy to wear. These are not necessarily very airy or detailed. But should do great with movies and for a beater pair. I can't really fault these, even if they were $50. At $75 one starts to get into HD518 territory, which I live better than these, but do not offer the same amount of isolation. Furthermore, things become more competitive. This is one of those KSC-75-like awesome deals in audio IMHO. So, measurements Frequency Response (done twice) Distortion Right Distortion Left CSD Right CSD Left HD202 comparo I would pick these over the HD202s if I was in the market for a closed can and short on cash. Mainly because my HD202 pads have a tendency to disintegrate. Sonics are sort of comparable. Bass maybe cleaner on these, but HD202 may have cleaner upper mids.