Nativ Wave

I ran across these guys recently: Nativ Sound. I;m intrigued by the Natic Wave DAC...I have reservations about the noise that may be generated by the displays in the DAC, but it looks kind of slick and full-featured. Lots of details on IndieGogo too.

Curious if anyone knows anything about them?

 

Hi GoodEnough Gear - after having searched for some reviews , all I can find is some blurbs on the net announcing the extistance of this/these devices . It would be interesting to hear an opinion of someone who has listened to some Nativ products .

On digitalaudioreview.net there is a listing of " early-bird " options still available : http://www.digitalaudioreview.net/2016/04/risk-vs-reward-crowdfunding-nativ-sounds-vita/

It appears that there is no internal DAC , which I guess would allow users the freedom to choose as they please - maybe a good thing .

 

Hey fredeb...welcome!

Actually there are 2 units, both with screens - the DAC and the player. I'm more interested in the DAC myself .

Please introduce yourself here so folks can see what you're about as well - and check out the forum guidelines in the Bully Pulpit .

 

It's pretty - if you like that sort of thing.

And, "R2R" excepted, it completes a game of "DAC Buzzword Bingo" in a single page.

Which makes it, well, outwardly at least, just like any other recent DSD capable delta-sigma up-sampling DAC - albeit starting rather higher in the price tiers than those tend to do. And, if I'm reading their site correctly, their basic copy goes on about the LPS and all it's regulation, but this seems to be an OPTIONAL feature and appears to add $600 to the price. I don't like that.

Filters appear to be a mix of on-chip and external, though that's not entirely clear. Initially I thought the filters might be being handled in its DSP, but that only explicitly gets mentioned in relation to DSD up-sampling.

Many of the other claims are completely run-of-the-mill these days (Crystek oscillators, decade+ old CoTS D/S converter ICs etc.) and are apparently externalizing as many of the features built-in to the low-level silicon they're using as possible, even if they're not especially useful or interesting. Not that there is anything wrong with that, but I don't see a lot to get excited about.

And, if I was going to build a DAC, and, further, if I was going to equip it with a USB input ... and if I decided, for some reason, that an XMOS core was the way to get that job done, I damn sure wouldn't stuff it on the main board with all the DAC and analog bits. In fact, I'd go a lot further ... not only would that USB input be on a completely separate board, and probably caged, you'd also be able to completely switch if off and out of the circuit.

So the DAC leaves me entirely cold ... though I'll keep an open mind if I get to listen to one ...

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The Display/Roon UX on the other hand ... now that I am interested in ...

 

Yup, that's kinda the feeling I got as well, really just meant to look slick. Too bad, I like the IO capability.

 

hah I just found this thread. I backed for one of their players with the large 11.6" touchscreen. I should receive it in the next couple of weeks. I didn't get the dac for precisely the reasons you guys mention, but it does seem like the player, dac, power supply is a pretty cool integrated setup, the wooden stands and displays are pretty cool and the remote for the player can control the analog volume control chip in the dac.. and the displays as vu meters is pretty blingy

from their progress videos etc, the software interface is actually really polished and pretty. also they already have nice online manuals up on their site etc. They seem a very professional bunch compared to the usual crowdfunders

 

The digi touchscreen transport looks awesome, exactly what I've been looking for but the price is just stupid.

 

it was a lot cheaper on indiegogo.. I think they are marketing it to be fairly high end like auralic aries