Discussion in 'Tales from the Bully Pulpit' started by Joh, Sep 26, 2015.
Thanks...I am slowly discovering.
After reading a lot SBAF, I finally decided to make an account (get too tired of headfi, people recommending without having even listened to the gear, collective hallucinations and so one.. ). I used to have HE500 (with forza audiworks) , schiit lyr 1 (with dario miniwatt) & modi 1 but I had sold everything to get speakers. Now I'm back into this hobby & my wallet is already hurting me Right now, I've started with HE-400i & ifi micro iDSD BL.
Greetings from Brussels everyone !
Welcome to SBAF bro!!
I just want to introduce myself and give a bit of background so that my future posts have a bit of context behind them.
My name is Chip (aka Chipless), and I'm 29 years old, living in Colorado. I work as a professional Firefighter/EMT for a city department that serves 100,000+ people. In a prior life, I was a Certified Public Accountant (CPA), but I now reserve all my "nerdy" tendencies solely for audio/technological pursuits.
Speaking of audio, I was raised in a household that contained an obsessed audiophile, so I was exposed to hifi equipment at a very young age. Along with an appreciation of well recorded music and equipment with which to reproduce it, I also acquired a healthy skepticism for gear. I watched various speakers/pre-amps/amps/etc come and go countless times, and learned something each time simply by listening to the music, setup, and my father's commentary.
My interest in audio continued throughout college and into adulthood, although my setup seems to constantly be a work in progress (although I wish it wasn't).
Movie watching and two channel music listening via my living room theater have comprised the majority of the time spent with audio over the past several years, but I've found myself listening to my headphones more and more lately, which has led me to SBAF.
SBAF appealed to me right away due to the measurements that are posted here. I am a big fan of Dr. Floyd Toole and also his work at Harman as it relates specifically to the LSR series of loudspeakers. I tend to agree that the "spin-o-rama" response plot is an excellent way by which to judge a loudspeaker's performance, and I wish that more designers had the ability to measure their speakers in a similar way (Dynaudio just built a similar facility BTW). Anyway, I find measurements and data to be extremely valuable, but only when they directly correlate to something we can actually hear. SBAF seems to value a similar ideology, which excites me! Also, the culture seems to be very healthy here, which is becoming increasingly rare on Internet forums these days.
My goals are to respectfully learn as much as possible, buy as few items as possible along the way, and simply enjoy the music along with the company of those that made it all possible.
I look forward to exchanging messages with all of you, and thank you for the warm welcome thus far!
Welcome to SBAF! That's an interesting background you've got there.
Hey all, after lurking a while I decided I'd join, and introduce myself. Apologies for this being long - I figured it'd be a good reference for the future.
MY HISTORY WITH AUDIO
My audio journey started in late 2008, when I was given a pair of Genelec 8040s by a business partner. I had only had a pair of Usher S520s before that, so it was my first experience of really good quality audio - and it really struck me.
Fast forward 7 years, I was heading out for a two month road trip in Jan-Feb 2015, and figured I would really miss good music on my trip. So I started looking into headphones. Fostex TH-600s seemed like the perfect fit to my tastes based on reviews. I paired them up with a Fiio E17. The first experience was transformative. I sat on a beach chair for half a day, just listening to every track from my past I could think of, because it sounded so good - the sound stage, the deep bass, the clarity. Later on the same trip I bought my first Schiit stack, a Modi and Magni.
- Oppo PM-3
- Oppo HA-2
- iPhone / Tidal & Apple Music over lightning
Two months on the road demonstrated that Fostex TH-600s are pretty terrible for travel use. Big and bulky, they are really hard to carry. Also, the Fiio E17 was disappointing. I did again some more research, and eventually landed on the Oppo combo. My first impressions were lackluster. None of the soundstgage or slamming bass of the TH-600s. They were beautiful, however, and their build quality was phenomenal, and the carry case is brilliant. I have since come around a bit, I quite like them for what they are - a compact pair of headphones for travel. I actually got a second pair to my wife, as she loved mine and after a lot of research I concluded that nothing better seems to exist.
- Fostex TH-600 => E-MU Teak
- Schiit Asgard 2
- Schiit Bifrost Multibit
- iMac / Tidal & Apple Music over optical
I work in a design studio, on an iMac. It's often noisy, and I want to escape to my music. After my Fostex TH-600s failed the road test, I figured they are perfect for the office. Initially I ran them of a Magni/Modi stack, but then I got caught into the multibit hype and got a Asgard 2 / Bifrost Multibit stack. They work amazing, although office use is more functional than hedonistic.
- Genelec 8351 x 4, Genelec 8340 x 4
- Tidal -- Autonomic Mirage -- Crestron -- Schiit Yggdrasil -- Marantz AV8802A (for AV source switching)
- Tidal -- Autonomic Mirage -- Crestron -- Schiit Yggdrasil -- Schiit Ragnarok
- Hifiman HE-1000s
My new flat will be ready at the end of January. I got to design and specify everything from the scratch, so I went with what I would consider my end-game setup. I am a big fan of Schiit's value proposition. Based on reviews and auditions, I chose Hifiman HE-1000s over Sennheiser HD-800s (too bright), Audeze LCD-3s (to small sound stage), Stax SR-009s (need for a separate energizer freaked me out). The flat is wired with coax straight from Tidal to Yggdrasils. I might eventually buy a second pair of headphones to complement the HE-1000s - something different.
That's where I have got during two years into audio, I am hoping to lear a lot more here.
Hi @Chittagong, are you the person with the ridiculous(ly good) setup / living space on NeoGAF? I always marvel at the improvements you make to your space.
Welcome to SBAF.
Haha, I am a NeoGAF frequent indeed, have posted pics of my home there since 2006 I think. Thanks for the kind words, hopefully I can post pics of my new setup in March or so!
Welcome to SBAF!!
Just realized there was a new members forum, figured I should properly introduce myself. I've been a lurker for a while on here, looking at the headphone measurements and recommendations. I really appreciate the straightforward attitude you guys have when it comes to all things audio. I have an account on head-fi, but I need a fresh perspective on audio equipment so here I am! FYI, I have a basic headphone setup of the ODAC+O2 into my trusty HD650s, looking to upgrade my source and amp soon. I also own a Beyer DT880 and an Audio Technica ATH-M50 for casual use. I mostly use the Klipsch X10 for portable use, and I am eyeballing the Etymotic ER4XR. In general, I prefer a flat to slightly warm sound signature. I am really big into all things audio related, and I am currently on the look for a job in the audio engineering field.
Ahoi there SBAF!
Already made a quick post to thank for the HD800 amp thread, but I´ll pretend that didn´t happen.
I´ve been a computer (Linux in particular) geek all my life and always liked to use headphones. A very long time ago back in senior high school I got my first good headphones: they were some Sennheisers from the 500-series. At the time they cost around 150 euros, which for a headphone seemed a lot at the time. Got them, was happy but didn´t see headphones as something worthy of deeper interest. Probably didn´t even know a hobbyist scene existed. Anyways, eventually as a university student I found out Head-Fi.org it struck me like lightning. I liked the scene, liked the products and it seemed to be a good time to start the hobby too. It was back in 2009 when the Sennheiser HD 800 had just been released. Soon I started researching what to buy as my first "serious" setup and ended up doing a 70/30% split on headphones/source gear. Tried a lot of headphones at a local audio store and ended up buying the HD800 with a cheap NuForce Icon dac/amp. Looking back it was a horrible match: shrill, bright and clinical. But as many here know, when you first try serious gear you tend to go for what is most flashy. The HD800 on first audition was stunning. It knocked everything else out. No contest. Everything else sounded low fidelity. Even most good speaker setups.
Fast forward a couple of years and I had sold the HD 800 to move on to the Audeze hype train. Horrible mistake. That was my first and thus far last major FOTM purchase. Luckily the LCD-2´s at the time were so popular you had to be on a waiting list for them so it was easy to sell them at almost own cost. Soon I bought the HD 800 back and continued trying to find the ideal source combination. It was exciting to see how different the HD 800 could sound. The rational side of me at the time still believed in "objective audio", so it was neat to discover how different amps/dacs can sound. I never solved the HD 800 puzzle, but the closest I got was with PCM1704 multibit Audio-gd gear. Suddenly HD 800 sounded so real. Natural, like real life. While I don´t run Audio-gd gear anymore (difficult to sell as the models change all the time, are updated without upgrade possibility etc), they opened my eyes (well, ears) to multibit dacs. That being said, I eventually stumbled upon the venerable HD 650 and was instantly "sold". It sounded "right" without having to go through tons of gear (although it scaled almost as well as the HD 800). The tonality was the closest to ideal so far. For a long time I was happy with the HD 650. So happy that I sold the HD 800 and for an extended time just used the HD 650. The source that I eventually settled on and used for the longest time was the Sennheiser HDVD800. The objectivist side in me at the time still considered tube amps obsolete and mostly popular for nostalgia. That being said, as this forum seems to have chronicled the "usual Head-Fi.org hobbyist path" otherwise so correctly, I decided to give tube amps the benefit of doubt and ordered a Valhalla 2. Well, it arrived last week and you guys were right. They aren´t obsolete and do indeed sound different than solid state.
I found this site almost by accident. What originally drew me here were the headphone measurements and the discussions. It seemed like a nice blend of objectivism (audio is engineering, not art) and subjective audio (yet without the forest elf assembled cryo cables). What struck me most here was that if I now look at threads like the HD800 amp recommendations one and the HD 650 appreciation thread, it´s basically a chronicle of what I went through with the HD 800 and finally settling on the old classic HD 650. I would imagine it´s actually a pretty common journey, but you can´t find these conclusions on Head-Fi.org like you can here.
What I hope to do here is try to contribute a bit after being a lurker for a long time.
General headphone manufacturer impressions:
Sennheiser: the most professional and reliable headphone company there is. They also make most of the best products, except for the HD 700 which doesn´t deserve to be in the lineup at all (no idea how that ever got approved).
Beyerdynamic: T1 was painful, the second generation one less so but still a bit too metallic for my taste. The classic DT lineup is all horrible. From what I´ve read they seem to have a lot of QC issues. I don´t understand why they voice their headphones to emphasize uneven treble. That being said, the Amiron Home looks quite interesting, but I´ll wait to see some measurements and subjective evaluations from good sources first.
Audeze: I don´t get the planar magnetic hype. To me they have always sounded underwhelming. Smooth, but low resolution and no air. Horrible comfort.
AKG: K700-family is pretty good actually. Fantastic for gaming, but for music the Sennheiser HD 650/600 is still more natural. Very good value for money these days.
HiFiMaN: would be interested if the prices were all 30-50% off. They sell at Sennheiser prices, but aren´t on the same level (long, long way to go) in QC or product development in general. Promising brand though. Yearly updates on almost all models means horrible resale value.
Stax: beautiful stuff. I´m a fan, but tend to prefer dynamic headphones in the end. If I lived in Japan (local prices are almost twice that) I would likely have a Stax rig alongside the Sennheisers.
Sorry for the long post!
I've lurked here and changstar for years now and have made many purchases on advice I've found there, and I truly appreciate the careful measurements and detailed impressions provided here. I'm a currently a college student. My headphone upgrade path has run right through the feared mid-fi purgatory (M50->HD598->DT250), but I'm hoping to put a (tentative) end to this journey with the HD600s that are currently in the mail, since those seem pretty enthusiastically recommended around these parts. I jumped on the whole "objective" bandwagon before seeing the light, so I've been driving my headphones with the O2+ODAC combo, though I do run a pair of Ascend CBM-170SE speakers driven by an old NAD 7175PE for my home rig.
Hi, I have been reading the forum for a few weeks, and I do appreciate the opinions which seem based on experience and personal taste.
Also like the style of writing.
Been an hifi amateur for 20 years, of which 5 were really active in buying, testing and selling tons of gear, like a usual psychopath.
I learnt that I am very slow in understanding what I really enjoy listening at. I sold lots of material before I properly implemented them, I spent stupid energy anf money in cables and tweaks instead of properly selecting proper main components. I modified speakers, modified drivers and components, was never a success.
That was my hobby and I could afford not being effective.
I also spent some time on forums, also meeting real people and understanding that some internet experts are experts in forums only, that impressions and their expressions are impossible to interprete without knowing the guys and their system or taste. But sharing is key, by pleasure as well as for better results.
I have 2 objectives today :
- make my digital gear more expressive : rework a proper digital flow and possibly try a new dac
- build a comfortable headphone system for late evening sessions, discovering new music with qobuz : bought a pulmann-comfort headphone I like a lot, the audeze lcd2. I like the timbres and don't care about the weight. I don't want to wake-up the psychopath inside me and don't want to try to reach the audio quality of my main system with the headphone. I don't need all qualities, I don't need no weaknesses, I want a few great qualities that create a true pleasure listening to music.
I tried the hd800 and T1, on insufficiently good systems, I didn't enjoy any and bought the audeze that was immediately nice sounding in the same environment. Now I need an amp ...
thanks for this forum
I started getting into headphones back in high school (probably thanks to /g/ on 4chan). I started out with the Koss PortaPro. In college, I got the Audio-Technica ATH-A700. I got married and lost interest in (read: I couldn't spend the money on) audio. After my divorce fall before last, I built a new PC, started lurking /r/headphones, and picked up the HD598. I noticed a high-pitched whine in the audio when I was playing games, so I looked into external DACs/amps, and I was pointed to the Schiit stack and ended up with the Modi 2/Modi 2).
I enjoyed /r/headphones for a while, but there was a lot of parroting and not very much deep technical discussion. I almost fell for the "all DACs/amps sound the same" and "the Magni is the last amp you'll ever need" lines, but something told me there was more to the story, so I started lurking HF. Occasionally, I'd follow links here, and I found I preferred reading the discussions here. I sold off my HD598, Urbanite XL, and ATH-A700 and bought the HD650.
Recently, I'd been reading up on what multibit/R2R is all about and how it differs from delta-sigma. A couple of weeks ago, my Mimby arrived. I still haven't listened to enough music through it to come to any definitive conclusions, but once I have, I'll switch back to my Modi 2 and listen to the difference. I'm thinking my next stop will be an amp upgrade, but I need to hear some other amps to know what there is to gain. A meet may be in my future.
As it is the rule on this forum every newcomer should introduce itself. I'm not so good at writing and English is not my native language so please forgive my mistakes. This is my short introduction:
I am from Europe and I am engineer by profession but working in South Korea for some time. I was interested since my youth in electronics and especially in HIFI equipment but since several years ago not quite able to afford good equipment. Last years I've tried to built my system but being in Korea there was not so easy. Language is the biggest barrier and here everything that is not local is more expensive (on top of already inflated prices practiced in this hobby). Beside the material side, impossibility to listen the HIFI components before buying, there were all the other problems that all of us in this hobby I think had and I am referring to the fact that whenever you think that you finally choose a component then happens to read or to see or hear another similar one and start thinking over and over again. Normally, people fortunate enough to have big budgets or living in areas where is relatively easy to try or even buy/resell components just go through this process and accumulate more experience from trying different pieces of equipment. As I said I am not in this category so the process is taking place in a virtual plan. I'm reading a lot, accumulate information along the road and filtering this when a particular interest occur. From time to time I take the decision and buy a piece of equipment. This is how I reach this inventory:
Source: Mainly my old 2010 iMac + an ASSUS NAS, OPPO BDP105, FIIO X5 (portable);
DAC: iFi MicroDSD, Gustard X20U, Holo Audio Spring (Level 3 equivalent);
Headphones: Denon ADH2000, Meze 99 Classics, Senn HD6xx & HD800S;
HP amps: iFi Ican and iTube, Cavalli Liquid Carbon
Power Amps: Cayin A88T Mk.II, Job INT, Marantz 5004 EV Receiver (for video purpose only);
Speakers: Jamo 5.1 (For video only); KEF LS50; Tannoy XT8F;
Cables: mostly DIY excepting some SUPRA USB cables and some RCA interconnects.
For sure not the best and even if not all satisfied me and I wish to replace them, as I said is not easily possible without off course a big expense. Nevertheless, even if there are already lists and plans in my head as to how and what to change I've decide that, for the moment, to put a break on my purchases at least until I will be in position to be able to change some of the equipment in a reasonable manner.
Other than that I try to learn as much as possible and in every possible way.
I'm on a temporary job in US for more than a year, and decided this is the right time to build a nice audio setup. So here I am, trading on classifieds obsessively for a year. I'm a lurker on SBAF for about the same time, and a modest poster on head-fi. What I like about SBAF is content of higher quality on average and more objectivity. The lack of shills is very obvious here, when you describe to the point qualities and defects of some product.
What I find most amazing, is the tours you guys organize for various equipment using site's budget. The opinions you share are most insightful.
Finally decided to make an account because I had to ask a question.
My current setup:
Digital interface: Audio-GD DI2014
DAC: Audio-GD DAC-19 DI, Sonic Frontiers SFD-1 MK2 (got it yesterday)
Amp: Apex Peak/Volcano + Sylvania 6SN7W tube
Headphones: Th-X00 (main for music), LCD-X (main for movies), HD6xx (because why not)
Portable setup: DX100 DAP, IE80
Hi all, I got asked to introduce myself here
I'm 28 y/o from germany and I like listening to music, gaming and sports.
I started with HD650 and a Audigy Soundcard when I was 14 years old and after owning several HD800(M) and Audeze headphones and listening to the most of the other high-end headphones I ended with HD650 again. I have been reading and sometimes writing in several audio forums for more than 10 years but mostly German forums because my english sucks. But I will try my best and I'm looking forward to take part in your great community.
Current setup: Centrance Hifi-m8, HD650 (coin mod with k240 pads, spider/foam removal, dynamat) and Vision Ears VE6 X2 custom inears.
before: HD800 french and rabig dawg mod with idsd micro
I apologize to all of the new members I have not welcomed yet, I know I am behind. So I want to take this opportunity to welcome all of the new members I have not welcomed yet to SBAF. I hope you enjoy the site and if you ave any questions about how to use the site or the forums, please do not hesitate to contact myself or another staff member for help.
Welcome. Well your nick...that one took me a while
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