Schiit Gungnir Multibit impressions

Discussion in 'Digital: DACs, USB converters, decrapifiers' started by Bill-P, Oct 7, 2015.

  1. allegro

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    I am recommending a UPS that is on-line, double-conversion providing true sine wave output. Example would be Tripp Lite SU1500XLCD and there are others. There is some sticker shock as an on-line UPS is not cheap.

     
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    Taverius Smells like sausages

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    That's a nice price for an on-line 1500VA, pretty sure APC would be quite a bit more.

    Personally I couldn't hear the difference between a true sine on-line and true sine line-interactive tho, when I tried both.
     
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    Power outages don't occur that often that it's warranted for me, my power is actually super stable where I live (watch it go to shit now that I said that).

    It's just that we basically had a winter hurricane up here that took out power to over 200K homes (which is approaching like 50% of the homes in my province), and some people took 72 hours to get it back when it was like -15°C (5°F) - my power came back in about12 hours thankfully. So I think I'll survive a little roughness around the edges of Gungnir Multibit for 48 hours.
     
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    Yeah, maybe not your first priority in that situation...
     
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    so folks can put this review into perspective now and in the future,
    what was the manufactured date of this specific Gungnir Multibit?
     
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    That Gungnir Multibit is back on my desk. I don't see a stamp on the back of it with a date. 06003433 looks to be the serial number (?)
     
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    thanks, maybe purchase date is all we can go on at the moment?

    also, after reading the @Luckbad Gungnir Multibit review a question to him:
    stating that you love R2R DACs, yet also get listening fatigue in short order from over sampling DACs, or headaches after long listens:

    1. why would you love something that causes discomfort?
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    have you heard a R2R DAC that is NOS and perfect for you?

    2. so the Gungnir Multibit is fantastic sounding but still you get uncomfortable after 30 min?
     
  11. BillOhio

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    I'm the second owner. I think the first owner bought it originally in mid-summer 2016. It's not Gen 5, of course.
     
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    I haven't had an asgard in a few years, but I can safely touch the mj2 so I'm guessing it's not as hot. But, the relative sizing is off; I like to think of the mj2 as a cozy warm blanket for my Gungnir Multibit.
     
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    Some R-2R and/or multibit type DACs that don't cause me fatigue:
    • Schiit Bifrost Multibit - Gen 5, newer manufacture. I got a small amount of fatigue when I had my original Bifrost Multibit right when they came out and also paired it with a lesser source. Gen 5 USB and Lynx AES16e with a current Bifrost Multibit don't cause an issue for me.
    • Schiit Modi Multibit - Paired with Schiit Eitr I never noted any headaches
    • Sonic Frontiers SFD-1 MKII (and SE+ variants) - Paired with various sources I've never had issues with these
    • MHDT Labs NOS DACs - I've used all but the older and non-R-2R units without issuie
    • Holo Spring Kitsune Level 3 - No listening fatigue in NOS mode. Never could stand OS long enough to get to that point
    • Metrum Amethyst - This is a nice one and never caused headaches
    • Audio-GD - Various. Master-11 was the one I had the longest. Nothing with PCM1704 gave me problems, nor did their older Wolfson stuff. I tried one of the AGD Sabre DACs and nearly went Scanners.
    • Probably some others that I can't remember
    Yeah, the Gungnir Multibit sounds awesome and gives me a headache. It's probably more detailed than I'm used to, and my system was tuned with less resolution in mind. It's kinda like the Focal Clear. Man that sounds great and it gives me a headache.

    Just because something causes problems for me doesn't mean I can't think it's awesome. A modded HE-6 from speaker taps sounded great to me but I'd never buy it.

    The Gungnir Multibit though... something about it makes me want one. Maybe newer silent revisions will be kinder to me? Or if I do more to build my system with it in mind, perhaps it'll be perfect. Or I'll struggle with it for a while and sell it.
     
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    thanks for the additional perspective and reporting on DAC vs. fatigue factor.
    would seem that a good source (Eitr) also helps (reduce?) the impact of fatigue....

    did you use an Eitr on that (older) Gungnir Multibit loaner?
     
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    I'm using an Eitr with it now, fwiw. I anticipate going back to my RME card once I remember how to get that card configured.
     
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    I didn't have an Eitr to try with it. That could be the ticket, though. I only used it with the Lynx AES16e. The Eitr is slightly smoother and a little less detailed than the Lynx.
     
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    Compared to how I remember the RME which I haven't heard in 3 months as I transition from Toronto to LA, I hear the Eitr as more spacious but also a bit diffuse. In other words, pretty much what Luckbad said. Compared to Gen2, I might have said that Gen 5 is a bit "rosier' but it looks like 'sweeter' has been used already, so I'd go along with that but it's subtle.
     
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    Here is the analysis of Gungnir Multibit serial numbers from various classifieds. I also recorded their initial sale date, where this info was available. The results are quite intriguing... There are 3 series of Gungnir Multibit:

    - C series - units born Gungnir DS and upgraded.
    - 0 series - most Gungnir MB units
    - B series - Earliest unit visible is from Sep 2017, some mix up with 0 series until Oct, B series only since Jan.

    Initially planned to get a used Gungnir Multibit, but after this analysis I ordered a new one. Anyone can compare series 0 and B?
     
  19. Senorx12562

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    My gen5 was purchased 9/17 and has a s/n starting with B, so is consistent with the above. I am curious though, what is the deal with the serial nos. on these things? I've seen this addressed repeatedly, but still haven't heard an actual reason why anyone would care. What is the significance?
     
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    This: http://www.schiit.com/about/news/yggdrasil-refined
     

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