Schiit Ragnarok - aka raggy

Discussion in 'Headphone Amplifiers and Combo (DAC/Amp) Units' started by JoshMorr, May 4, 2016.

  1. Scott Kramer

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    It was from a factory tour I was reading. Forget where, just do a google image search.

    Also in that pic I was zoomed in looking around for a bag/reel of ir sensors, if ya' get my drift. :rolleyes:
     
  2. zerodeefex

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    I won't buy a pre without a remote now. As much as I love walking over to the Jotunheim, I understand the appeal.
     
  3. Merrick

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    Didn't Jason confirm all the upcoming pre's would have remotes? Or am I dreaming that?
     
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    It's been confirmed on HF. I'll post Jason's reply when I come across it again.
     
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    That's what I thought. I'm excited for that for sure.
     
  6. Malabargold

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    So after I contacted Schiit about the issue with my Ragnarok not fully cycling on I was told to send it in for repairs. I just received it back a month later and guess what, it still is having the exact same problem! I will hear the the amp click once to turn on but I never get the second click where it should unmute.

    Right now the only thing plugged into it is the stock power cord plugged directly into the wall. I have tried multiple outlets in several different homes as well several other power cords that I know all work and still nothing. I even tested my outlets with a multimeter and they are all working fine, 120VAC. This leads me to believe that the problem must be with the amp itself. To make this even more frustrating the repairs sheet that was sent back with my amp says "No fault found". So I assume that means the amp turned on normally for them when they had ito_O

    Right now I am a little disappointed with Schiit's repair team for sending the amp back in this condition without contacting me to talk more in-depth about the problems I've been having with it. (Why is it so hard to get in touch with you guys for repairs) I have no idea why it could be working for them but not working for me as all my tests show that the problem is still the amp itself. It seems counter intuitive to ship the amp back to them again as they say it is working perfectly.

    Right now I am kicking myself for buying the amp used because I know Schiit is under no obligation to get me a working Ragnarok due to mine being out of warranty.
     
  7. johnjen

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    There are a few things you can check if you are so inclined.

    #1 Measure the voltage between ground and neutral, it should be well under 0.5volts ac and dc and steady.
    #2 Make sure that hot and neutral aren't reversed at the wall receptacle.
    #3 Is the plug loose in the wall receptacle? If so replace the receptacle.

    Yeah these suggestions are reaching, but sometimes the simple stuff can be hard to see because it's taken for granted.

    JJ
     
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    Thanks for the suggestions, it wouldn't hurt to test those. Yet I doubt the outlets are causing the issue. I have tried the amp on different outlets in my home and on outlets in other homes as well.

    The amp worked perfectly fine on the same outlet for a month until one day I turn it on again and it's not working.
     
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    Ah, you've tried it elsewhere? Bother.

    Still, in your place, I'd be curious enough to take a decent mains socket tester (the US equivalent of a Martindale?) around, just in case. I assume the fault manifested in other buildings, too?
     
  10. Malabargold

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    Yes it has not worked in any place i've try it.

    It's been a confusing situation. On one hand I believe that if Schiit said it worked for them than it most likely did, however it certainly seems broken from my perspective.
     
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    Yeah, unless their test benches have screwy power, which seems unlikely. It's a hell of an odd situation. Where are those two Schiitheads when you need them?
     
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    I thought I'd give an update to say that schiit paid to have my Rag shipped back to them so they could take another look at it.

    That was nice of them as I was going to be a little disheartened if I had to pay shipping both ways again with the chance that they might tell me 'no fault found' for a second time:confused:
     
  13. Larry Megugorac

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    Malabargold,

    Thanks for the update on your issues with Schiit's repair service. I am thinking of getting a Gungnir Multibit and want to be sure their Customer service is as first rate as their products...

    I hope you get your Raggy fixed to your satisfaction!
     
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    I ordered a Yggdrasil A2 to upgrade the Bifrost Multibit. Now I'm considering upgrading the Lyr 2. The Raggy speaker out is appealing, but I've become enamored with the sound of the Lyr 2, so the Mojo 2 may be a better option for me given that I spend most of my time listening through headphones.

    My experiences with sold-state amps have always left me feeling there is just something dry, repetitive, and ultimately boring at best, annoying at worst. The Lyr 2 with tubes seems to just add a touch of liquidity, syrup, that is enjoyable, and analog like.

    Still that speaker out feature is appealing...

    If anyone with a Raggy has a Mojo 2, or has had a chance to compare them, I'd appreciate your impressions.
    p.s. A separate amp for speakers is of course an option too, though from what I've read on this site, some people seemed to have mixed feelings using Mojo 2 as a pre-amp. I don't mind some coloration, if it's pleasant sounding. There is also the option of a separate pre-amp+amp for speakers. The Yggdrasil A2 has multiple outputs, so presumably there is no harm in using it to drive two separate pre-amp/amps, one for headphones, one for speakers.
     
  15. Larry Megugorac

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    I got a Yggdrasil myself a month or so ago and I really love it. My rig sounds as close to vinyl as it ever has.....of course with way more than the 65db SNR vinyl affords you!:D So I get the dynamic range of digital with no needle dragging on the vinyl noise.....:).
     
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    ^ So I wrote the query above, but after much internal debate today... I ordered a Mojo 2 with LISST. I may not get much use out of the solid state option, but I already have three sets of tubes for the Lyr 2, and so the LISST option for another $60 is cheap enough they are worth some experimental time.

    The more I thought about, the more I realized I've just become too enamored with the sound of the Lyr 2 to entirely give up the tube options. Hopefully no buyers remorse wondering about the Raggy, but those tubes just seem to add a touch of magic, and there is the fun factor of being able to experiment with alternatives that I realized I'd miss.
     
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    It's interesting, because the majority of people are content with digital and solid-state. Problem is if you grew up with that analog sound quality, or for whatever reasons, you hear that difference, then yea, while it can be hard to explain to someone who doesn't hear it what is meant, the pursuit of analog traits can become an obsession, for good reason ;)

    Having grown up with tube gear, and a turn-table, I've definitely wasted a lot of money in the mean time on solid-state and digital gear that has left me disappointed. Of course I do love the convenience of sold-state, and digital. Ripping all my CDs to the computer and playing from there is less hassle, and I'm inclined to pull up music I might not if it meant swapping CDs, or vinyl, but even still, I miss the sound of that old gear. CDs and DACs have improved, so I'm more tolerant, but I remember very well my first CD player, and those first two Telarc CDs I bought. Sure I was impressed with the dynamic range, and the lack of noise, but literally within hours I noticed violins sounded like buzz saws, bells had little ring and lots of zippy buzzing sound, horns, ugh, so much digital glare, etc. I kept thinking so this is 100% accurate, so it must be my speakers, but no, not true either. Of course at that point in time I don't think the audio engineers applied or understood the importance of some dither, and the DAC in that first generation player was no doubt junk, but even after several CD player swaps, I still heard that same fuzz, glare, grit.

    I do think Bifrost Multibit + Lyr 2 finally expresses some of that analog like quality I've been searching for. I'm hopeful the Yggdrasil A2 and Mojo 2 are better still. Sadly I'm also debating buying a Vallhala too, just to play with it and find out what an ALL tube amp sounds like these days. Kind of hopeful that Schitt will eventually offer a hybrid tube amp, something like Ragnarok feature wise, but with a tube option.
     
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    I've bought a HD800 S and a HDVD800 which will be in Monday (if tracking is correct). My two end game headphones are the HD800 S and hopefully soon an Oppo PM-1. My fear is that the HDVD800 will only really make the HD800 S shine and be only meh to the PM-1 and even a few reciews say its not good for low impedance stuff. So my question is, how would my ideal setup be on a HDVD800 vs. a Schiit Ragnorok? Have any of you by chance heard both amps w/ said headphones? Any input is appreciated thank you.
     
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    The Rag will eat the HDVD800 for breakfast. The Senn amp also has an OI of >40ohms so it will likely be a muddy mess with PM-1s.

    Use the balanced output and get a filtered power strip like the Emotiva CMX-2 for best results. The Ragnarok was voiced with the stock HD800 in mind IIRC and will work fine with the 800S.
     
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    In addition, the Ragnarok had amazing synergy with the Audio Zenith PMx2, a modified Oppo PM-1/PM-2 (unless you are completely in love with the PM-1 sound, I would highly recommend looking at the PMx2. There are some impressions here: http://superbestaudiofriends.org/index.php?threads/audio-zenith-pmx2-redux-and-quick-impressions.60/. Bear in mind that Alex has made some revisions along the way, so I'd look more at the later impressions).
     

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