the one where Campfire and LH Labs clear the air a bit

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    Ruh roh... Looks like Larry Ho knows some JEW-JITSU!!!

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    Right, got it.
     
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    I might have it wrong, but it looks like Campfire Audio and LH Labs had been doing something together on the "Asteria" which fell apart, and was clarified and posted earlier in this thread. Now this LH Labs, or Light Harmonic "Stella" shows up, looking quite a lot like a Campfire Audio IEM. "STELLA's unique Back Hexagonal Acoustic Chamber design (HBCC)" sounds a lot like "Tuned Acoustic Expansion Chamber™ (T.A.E.C.)" from Campfire Audio.

    The whole thing kinda seems fishy. I wonder what Ken Balls take on the situation is?

    Also, 10,000 yuan? Thats like 2K USD right? GTFO.
     
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    Hey, pretty cool rip-offl!
    I wonder if they sourced the parts from the same vendor as Campfire...you know, one that delivers the parts (parts that work as intended!) in time and without lame excuses.
     
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    HI all,

    I was going to let all this go but the whole thing just keeps burning and making me angry. I was really trying to let it go but, ugg.

    So yeah, I will tell you my take here folks... First, flat out it is a total rip off, in fact even down to the promotional materials, use of the night sky background and fonts wording etc...Some time ago we sent LH Labs ONE DD BA hybrid sample for him to try out during our brief period of communication as we were going to do some collaboration. After we split due to reasons that are too much for this post (but would also make people pretty pissed) the one sample was never returned, despite us asking LH Labs repeatedly to return the sample. LH Labs asked us to continue the collaboration (supply LH Labs with the cobranded IEMs) we declined. Fast forward several months later and LH Labs announces the "Stella". Which remarkably is a DD BA hybrid with a "rectangle" "Hexagonal Acoustic Chamber" or (HBCC). Clearly LH Labs did a tear down and copied the one sample I had sent them. For LH rip off our design and to charge $1500+ for copied IP is pretty scummy, low life, bad taste and should be an insult to anyone who enjoys this hobby.

    I urge the moderators not to delete my post please, everything I state here is 100% true and should be known for the sake of the customers (you) Of course you can decide for yourself here but honestly, lets pull up the history and known shenanigans of LH.

    Ken
     
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    I don't know if I should like or dislike. Larry cheated me of 2K+ so it's no wonder he resorted to stealing just to have some more publicity and cash flow from preorders.
     
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    f'ing hell. You're lawyered up?
     
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    More unscrupulous behaviour by Light Harmonic. People have been banned for less. Perhaps we should start a poll...
     
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    Ole Larry had already proven that he is a moral compass free p.o.s., and this is just further proof of that. As if one were needed.
     
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    Larry Ho ought to make sure no one follows him around. There are plenty of folks pissed off enough to want to lay a beatin' on him.
     
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    Larry Hoe seems like a fitting name
     
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    I know they're covered by Indiegogo disclaimers etc. but this behavior pattern is really deserving of a successful lawsuit against them.
     
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    Light Harmonic's packaging with the nighttime stars, thin-stroke sans serif font and rectangle around the "Stella" is way too close for comfort. This design is even closer to Campfire than the mockbuster Atlantic Rim promo materials were to Pacific Rim.

    Seriously, is Larry really that lazy or uncreative? And why do I doubt that LH understands the idea behind the nighttime stars and "Campfire"? LOL, LH gave it an outer space spin.

    I'll let Lord Karma sort this one out. Karma is a bitch.
     
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    No, Larry is a bitch.
     
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    In the China there is Xiaomi as the poster boy for consumer electronics. They copied Apple down to phone design, advertising images for the phones, UI for the phones. And their chairman presents in black casual clothes in front of minimalist slideshows for his keynotes.

    It's really not surprising to see smaller companies doing blatant ripoffs when that's how the big boys play.
     
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    Taking "Fake it until you make it" to a new level of literal meaning.
     
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