The reddit chord bitch thread

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  1. neogeosnk

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    Glanced over it. I did see some valid points amongst all the bitching and moaning. The Schiit fanboi-ism does get a bit heavy on SBAF at times, particularly with the Yggdrasil (the DAC Jesus would use).

    Still, that is a minor thing compared to the cynical profit engine that is Head-Fi, or the elitist clique of HeadAmp worshippers @ Head-Case.

    Pick your poison.
     
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    k4rstar Britney fan club president

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    Post is by the same rando who dropped by to tell us how perfect the A2000Z is using his Chord Mojo. Coincidence?
     
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    Merrick A lidless ear

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    What’s funny is the person basically agrees with most of the major opinions here, they just seem annoyed at our Chord trashing.
     
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    barelyincollege Nice Pit Bull

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    This is good. You want the vast majority of Reddit's current userbase to avoid coming here.
     
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    Riotvan Snoofer in the Woofer

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    I don't go to my favorite bar to bitch about the bar down the street.
     
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    phoenix_dogfan has us figured out perfectly...

    Of all the odd corners of audiophilia, SBAF may be one of the very oddest. Consider the following:
    1. The stupid ass cat avatars
    2. The fetishistic worship of a brand whose ownership has adopted a scatological nomenclature for its products, and whose two flagship products have measurable flaws Stereophile was easily able to identify
    3. Subjective reviews which are which are tantamount to mutual mental masturbation (explains why they're called Dac-offs, now doesn't it?)
    4. Rude treatment of anyone who disagrees with their "cognoscenti" approach to headphone evaluation which overvalues some brand and models (Hd650), and shits all over other equally good stuff (LCD 2)
    5. Elliptical, self referential cliquish humor which is opaque to newcomers who are called "randos" (a term of abuse, btw)
    Ultimately, unless you're a true believer in stuff like multibit (which objectively yield zero sonic benefits, and more than a few measurable anomalies) and Sennheiser headphones you should steer well clear of these assholes.

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    Skimmed through it and I like Honda_TypeR's mentality.

    His quote below is pretty useful in this scenario:
    "Ignore the crap that is just toxic for the sake of being toxic (you can spot that a mile off). It's easy to get sucked into and it's 110% useless to your learning or happiness."
     
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    Death to the infidels I say.
     
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    I haven’t even seen “Chord trashing here”. People like Torq (we miss you) acknowledge that they make good products like the Dave. Saying something has a poor value proposition isn’t really trashing. Trashing is like “Lulz this SUX get the Sing 19 instead.”
     
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    nithhoggr Author of the best selling novel Digital Jesus

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    Sooo, lemme get this straight. Because SBAF is all a huge conspiracy to market Eddie Current, we praise R2R DACs (which EC doesn't make) and recommend Schiit amps (i.e., one of EC's competitors) in order to groom people to ultimately buy EC amps. And then do a reverse psychology trick by recommending people not buy EC amps they don't need, which will obviously make them buy EC amps. The proof is that SBAF likes tube amps, since obviously EC is the only company in the world that makes high-end tube amps. Otherwise, we wouldn't say that Chord gear is overpriced, which it can't possibly be because it offers some of its products for less than $1000.

    I mean, I'm not saying SBAF is perfect or we don't have any biases, but that's tinfoil hat territory right there.
     
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    Just barely, isn't Mojo+Poly a $998 stack? Even here in Chord's native UK, that is comically overpriced.

    Also, Marv has actually told people EC tries to discourage buying their amps because they can't keep up with demand.
     
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    People create the narratives they want to believe. “People” in that sentence can be replaced with a number of descriptive words.
     
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    Seems like most are acting sensibly in the thread, which is nice enough to see. I still can't believe that some people think that different forums are gonna tend to focus around a few main core ideas, like minded poeple will always come together. Its almost as if that's how nearly all of human history has gone.
     
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    What strikes me is just the malice they attribute to people they disagree with and that they assume we attribute to people we disagree with. It's not just that they don't think that tube amps sound better while other people do think that, it's that tube amp lovers are actively (and, presumably, knowingly) pushing pseudoscientific nonsense to bamboozle the unwary into buying overpriced gear. It's not that some highly trusted reviewers here have a preference for R2R DACs and thus the community has a predilication towards R2R, it's that we're an R2R cult and anyone who politely expresses a preference for delta-sigma will be shouted down and banned. Of course people will be poorly received and banned if their idea of expressing dissenting opinions is to come in being argumentative and sounding like an asshole...it's really not a conspiracy that most people dislike people that come into their community and immediately act like jackasses.

    What really makes me sad is how the guy I quoted attributes to us the belief that Chord is "guilty of overpriced gear that tricks people". I don't think that anybody here thinks that Chord is trying to trick people, just that their gear is a bad value. IIRC, Torq even liked the Dave apart from the price. Some people just don't seem to be able to dislike something without claiming it's snake oil and a scam.
     
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    Paranoia is a wonderful thing. Reciprocal mass paranoia is even better.
     
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    purr1n Desire for betterer is endless.

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    I've realized there is a basic communication problem. Need to put on bottom SBAF graphic at top of site:

    A 1000% Biased Secret Society.
     
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    Those in their dotage need not apply

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