My new $99 Full Balanced headphone amp toy Loxjie P20

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  1. bilboda

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    Since I now have a balanced dac, I could not resist this from Amazon with a 10% coupon. I will make some xlr and balanced headphone cables and see how it goes. Relay volume control. too! My pics
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    Impressions?
     
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    Not yet. Didn't get a chance to make the cables yet. It is supposed to shine in full balanced mode.
     
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    i own their TPA 3116 amp with great results. not that it sounds good, and i mean good, it has an impressively quiet background on my 98db speakers. makes me even more conscious of the background noise and hiss of my tube amp. the build quality and the cast aluminum chassis also very impressive. ill try hard not to hold the zreviews reference against you. have you seen that guy try to explain a technology or design? he doesnt do one minute of research before hitting record on that stupid head camera.

    lookin' forward to your impressions tho.
     
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    If it’s “fully balanced” why does it have what looks like single ended inputs and outputs?
     
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    The real question is what parts went cheap in order to hit the $100 price point?
     
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    The XLR is there for "convenience".
     
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    no. incorrect. it is a fully balanced design.
     
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    Schiit Mjolnir 2 also has SE inputs and outputs but it is a balanced design.
     
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    So why you are the "Idiot of SBAF"?

    On topic:. Would be interested in seeing how this compares to the Vali 2.
     
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    every town needs a clown and also i said that i prefer audio-gd r2r11 to schiit amps. did not sit well just about anyone.
     
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    The difference is the word: "fully". What do you call "fully balanced"?
     
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    that the signal is balanced from input to output.

    edit: so going with the manufacture claim that the product is a balanced design, the SE inputs and outputs would be convenience features. Which is not just welcome but kinda mandatory, remember Jason has a full chapter in his book about how the absence of SE inputs and outputs resulted in abysmal sales for the original mjolnir.
     
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    Let's guess why this is $100?

    Hi-Res Audio sticker
    LPS
    Hybrid Amp
    Cheap Tubes

    Chi-Fi I guess. Still, this could be a cheap tube amp for home or an office that's cold.
     
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    Yes to all of the above except the lps. it's a wallwart smps. I did purchase some tubes, also from Amazon, jic. I'll let y'all know when I can find the time to make my cables. I'll be using HD650 and comparing to a MCTH and Crack with speedball.
     
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    I posted a bunch of stuff I found about this little gem on headphone community linked above. It's a great little tube amp in my opinion. I'm selling off my Cavalli Tube Hybrid and keeping this in it's place. The stock tubes are alright, and take a little bit of time to open up, but I've replaced them with cheap GE JAN 5670 tubes which have a similar sound but more detailed. Overall, I find these add some added warmth to the lower end and pair really well with my Elex, Elegia and HE560.
     
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    it seems to me that the jrc chips are the relays for the volume not the output opamps.
     
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    This may be a very good sounding amp. I'll probably never know.

    Each of my headphones cost an order of magnitude more than the amp, and IMO your fooling yourself if you think a chifi oem is going to replace your headphones if that amp fries it. Same goes for any chifi oem. That includes AGD. The horror stories are out there, go look for them.

    I'll keep buying American made products. Call me old fashioned.
     

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