The Game of Thrones Thread (With Spoilers)

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  1. mscott58

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    It was interesting to hear D&D talk about how Lyanna's character was supposed to be in just a single episode, but then when they saw how well Bella Ramsey embodied the character they wrote her into show for much longer.
     
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    Night King is another case of Alduin from Skyrim really: this really great boss set up throughout the whole game/TV series that, oops, we didn't have enough time to really develop so lets just make him have the powers of his subordinates/literally any normal dragon but look cooler.

    Also if the Dothraki had been revived, the obvious tactical move, that would've been an absolute massacre.
     
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    The jist I got from this episode is that it didn't really answer any questions, frustrated people to watch it and raised more questions of why there was an overall lack of logic, on both sides.

    How things ended here was pretty lame. I'm not overly excited to see how the rest of it plays out because it feels like I get disappointed all over again. And I can't handle that!
     
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    I'm a bit surprised at some of the Angst here over the Night King's demise (ie; that it came so easily and that it was improbable Arya could have made it to him unnoticed).

    On that first point... Sam killed that white walker early on with Dragon Glass and I believe it was the Hardhome episode where we were first tipped off to the premise that humanity's survival would ultimately be contingent on someone or something taking out the Night King... really, how else could humanity hope to survive given his ability to raise the dead (all of them) for his army? Not to mention that this was the plan all along with Bran at the Tree... of course Dany & Jon were unable to live up to their part of the plan.

    Regarding Arya's approach... The fact that we don't see Arya in the lead-up to that climactic scene is what built up the tension, I thought this was an excellent decision on the part of the writers and director. There was a good minute there where I actually thought it was all over and that the "bittersweet" ending we've heard about would be the Night King taking out Cersei. Two things here, Arya is "No One" and has proven to be the real "BOSS" among the living. Secondly, it could be that when the Night King told the whites to "stand down" (as he made his way to Theon & Bran) that this gave Arya the opportunity she needed to get close and move in for the kill.
     
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    Guys, they spent 2 months filming that episode and probably months more in post production. How much do you expect for $15 a month? They are going to Have to abbreviate a lot of things to get the central story lines into any sort of TV episode format.

    Other than the episode being so visually dark, I thought they did a pretty fantastic job.
     
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    Were the NK's Generals just the cheering committee? Were they disqualified for the playoffs?!
     
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    They are linchpins for the masses of their army, so they can't expose themselves. If they die, scores of undead go poof. Makes sense to me they were in the background and not fighting.

    My only real complaint is that this one episode could have been 2 epic episodes with a slower more dramatic pacing.

    Isn't HBO cheaping out this season and only doing 6 episodes? We're 1/2 way through to the end. Only 3 episodes left to conquer the South, kill Cersei and the Mountain, get John Snow married off to Daenerys, and to live happily ever after.

    I predict the rest of the season will be abbreviated Cliff Notes stories like this last episode was.
     
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    Whatever they do, I hope it happens in the daytime.
     
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    Based on the situation presented, Westeros was history.

    All NK and NK Generals had to do is stand back and necromance:

    Deadwalker minions squeegee-wipe living things, rise arms, release white walker armpit aroma, rise more deadwalker minions. Repeat.

    The only shot lving things had was to bait the NK. And like Idiot, he fell for it. Cold-Idiot had to personally deal with Bran. Not a NK General, not the cold dragon, not a random giant zombie, not a bunch of random zombies. No. He, being as idiotic as Jon "Idiot" Snow, had to do it himself, and expose the single point of failure the blue-eyes had. And it worked. That goes to show, more than anything, that the white walkers shared a powerful human weakness: Pride.

    If NK and the NK Generals were just kicking back relaxing, enjoying some shitty beer per @Psalmanazar recomendations, and watching some zombie-porn, things would have been awesome and grovy for them. All they had to do is watch the battle from time-to-time and raise their arms here and there.
     
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    The Ice Dude's dragon melted the city's walls like a hot knife through butter, but somehow couldn't melt that little wall that Jon hid under?

    Why did Dany just park her dragon looking all dramatic when she was clearly surrounded by dead dudes? I wouldn't poke my finger in an ant's nest for longer than a second, but she did so for like a whole minute. What did she expect?

    This is the first Game of Thrones episode that I've watched (peer pressure) so I might have missed something here. The first 10 minute of it was so well done. The more I watched, though, the more I knew this is not the second coming of Helms Deep that I was looking for.
     
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    Too much CGI. 50% of the heavy vfx scenes should have been implied / imagined by the viewer. CGI clouds, flame, and smoke are getting tired. Too many CGI corpse raining down too.

    Discovery did a similar thing with 10000 shuttlecraft and Federation fighters in it's S2 finale.
     
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    It was so cartooney, the few practical effect flames were jarring.
     
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    Helms Deep was better in some ways and worse in much more.

    The good on Helms Deep had to do with having bad guy not so overpowered. The good guys had more of a chance to do some damage. In fact, LoTR has a different problem: The bad guys are too underpowered. They are worse than stormtroopers, and that's hard.

    In Helms Deep, how the f**k did the guys survived more than 5 seconds on a horse as they rode against a sea of ugly looking bad dudes? How the hell did the horn helps? In GoT we have an army of crazy horse riders, and as expected, they did not last 10 seconds against a sea of dead stuff (and I do mean a f'ing sea of them).

    We can bitch about GoT having some surviving main characters ridiculously fighting against 20 dead things all at the same time. In Helms Deep pretty much everybody survives. And what was Gimmly's count? 100? 300? If I was Sauron I would fire Saruman yesterday for prodicing an army of wimps that even 80-year-old grandpas can take out. Legolas is like an all-in-one Green Arrow, Flash and Black Widow. It's crazy.

    Again, GoT fight scene was not perfect, but I feel there is definitively a lot more magical shit in LoTR.

    I found LoTR Helms Deep entertaining, but one does not need a microscope to see it's shit.
     
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    How many hits can Federation starships take until their shields fail? How many hits can Jaime and Capt. Phasma take until their armor fails?

    At least Legolas is more believable. being essentially a superhero and all.
     
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    This is a great point! They did show that the dragon was pretty badly injured (flames leaking from his ripped throat) but still even at 50% the beast should have been able to fry him to a crispy chicken nugget...
     
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    Saw latest episode with a group of friends last night, we had a tricky time with the darkness. Hard to see who came back from the Dothraki charge. Did Ghost make it back? I will probably rewatch it on a different screen to check.

    Little disappointing with the show not having enough courage to kill off more main characters. Seems a little hard to believe that after most of the Dothraki, Unsullied, and Stark troops dies that only a few of the main characters ended up dying.

    The entire show was building up for a fight against the Night King and the battle being concluded in an hour and a half didn't really do them justice.

    I am also wondering where Arya was, how she got passed all the white walkers, where did she launch herself from. Did she steal a wights face and blend in? Was she hiding in that tree? Did she just ninja pass through an army of undead.

    So many questions.
     
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    That's the problem with LoTR. Legolas, Gimly, and Aragorn where elf, dwarf and Numenorian human. Acomplished as they were, they were not superheros.

    Gimly was no Assguardian. Legolas was not exposed to random-rays and gets fucked up when angry. Aragon was not bitten by a cockroach and can climb through walls and lift 20 times his weight. The only weird one there is Gandalf. And he is the only one that died only to come back 2.0ed, refreshed, clean clothes, and ready to kick some butt.

    Slightly different problem with Jaime and Phasma. They are dead meet. They are surrounded by 50 something zombies. Change the take. Focus on Bran or the Arya situation. Come back 10 or 15 min later. Jaime and Phasma are still dead meet and surrounded by maybe the same 50 something zombies. Change the take. Focus on Dany and Drogon. Some other random stuff. Come back 10 or 15 min later. Jamie and Phasma are still dead meet and surrounded by maybe some 50 something zombies.

    It was Bran. I bet he had some Dr. Strange-like powars, and was doing the time loop thing.
     
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    Dude, when Drogon came in, I thought he ripped Viserion's head off (Rhaegal already did all kinds of nasty damage there already). But nope. He was still doing crazy random shit here and there on the ground.
     
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    They should have put dragon glass dental crowns and nail extensions on Drogon and Rhaegal!
     

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