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  2. zonto
    zonto
    That guy is/was on Ad-Fi too. Frequents the Sound Science subforum.
    Sep 30, 2017
  3. Muse Wanderer
    Muse Wanderer
    Yeah, he is on ad-fi too.
    It looks like he has one objective in life, flying the sound science brigade flag!
    Wonder how such obsession came about... aha "my Oppo HA1 and Oppo PM1 is the bestest ever!"
    Sep 30, 2017
  4. Friday
    Friday
    Pfft, music objectivists. I'd like to see one of them design a listening experiment that can be statistically analysed at all, be it parametric/non-parametric or Bayesian, and prepare the R script for the test codes while they're at it.
    Sep 30, 2017
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  5. landroni
    landroni
    I think one aspect is for some to feel self-important (e.g. "I'm the guardian of the 'objectivist' science") and expert (e.g. "I'm an objective 'objectivist'! I'm a scientist!"), when they quite obviously are not. I think it's a pretty curious social phenomenon, and it seems to be galvanized by the internet, as you don't see such people getting such disproportionate attention IRL.
    Sep 30, 2017
  6. landroni
    landroni
    Sep 30, 2017
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  7. Muse Wanderer
    Muse Wanderer
    I know... he also mentioned that "science does double blind...", as if science is a person that does something. A scientist doesn't even talk about science, but about his particular expertise etc.
    Sep 30, 2017
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  8. Dino
    Dino
    bigshot - Read my links, read my links. You don't know nothing 'til you read my links...
    Sep 30, 2017
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  9. DigMe
    DigMe
    LOL! Honestly i think these are possibly people who cannot stand to be wrong, who can't stand to not have the best of something but they don't have or don't trust their own listening skills. So they must default to what they think is proof that they have "the best."
    Sep 30, 2017
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  10. Dino
    Dino
    I predict that bigshot will always need to have the last word.
    Sep 30, 2017
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  11. landroni
    landroni
    What I love about these loud "objectivist" protestations, is that there are pretty credible testaments out there -- in self-administered and level-matched double-blind setting -- that DACs can be reliably identified. If you can trust atomicbob for testing results for audio gear, you can probably trust him for self-administered DBT results. And the whole Life After Yggdrasil is one long string of DBT evaluations...
    Sep 30, 2017
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  12. Muse Wanderer
    Muse Wanderer
    The best way I found is not to counter-argue with subjective impressions but to break the foundations of his flawed argument about so called science facts. Counter false science with real science. This way one can easily drive the knife into the heart of his arguments.

    Then enjoy looking as his tower of knowledge smashes down into pieces.
    Sep 30, 2017
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  13. DigMe
    DigMe
    You may be underestimating this man's unwillingness to be wrong. :)
    Sep 30, 2017
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  14. landroni
    landroni
    A true house of cards... But that's when things usually get ugly and personal.
    Sep 30, 2017
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  15. powermatic
    powermatic
    Forget it Jake. It's Chinatown.
    Sep 30, 2017
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  16. landroni
    landroni
    Sep 30, 2017
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  17. Muse Wanderer
    Muse Wanderer
    Interesting read @landroni thanks for the link. There are so many variables with respect to human's psychology, neurophysiology and the sense of hearing that a very expensive study would be needed to control them and answer just one question. No such studies exist.

    It is a hobby at the end even though it instils life into our music.
    Oct 1, 2017
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