Bang-for-the-Buck DAC to complement The Jotunheim

I am not upset. I usually write walls of text and this is how I usually post. If you are mad I tend not to write "IN MY OPINION", "IN MY EXPERIENCE", "I HAVE A HUNCH", or "PARDON MY FRENCH", then you may lack self-confidence or critical thinking skills. There are philosophy classes, debate teams, self-help courses, writing seminars, gym programs, and other websites for that but I am not your guru.

 

Way to side-step the point being made. I'll leave you to your delusions.

Claiming your opinions are "what things actually sound like" and calling "BULLSHIT" when somebody disagrees with you is a little different to stating your opinions without specifically clarifying that they are indeed opinions (which isn't the issue here.)

 

Lads, give it a rest.

Your arguments about sound were interesting and elucidating. Those about posting style and emotional disposition, not so much.

Cheers,
Jeff.

 

Doubt you care what I think but I hope you'll give my perspective some consideration because I mean well:

Your writing is funny but definitely gives an impression of extreme confidence, and thus overstates the orders of magnitudes involved, in your descriptions of gear you dislike and their shortcomings. The perceived deficiencies you note are likely less severe or noticeable to the average listener than the gusto with which you describe them suggests. The more experience you have the more noticeable these differences are, but keep in mind your 10% difference is likely closer to 1% for the average user who has signed up in 2017. People who don't know about your penchant for bravado may end up confused by the seemingly contradictory opinions between you and staffers and friends here because you express them so effusively. More context and less hyperbole for how large these deficiency gaps are from your POV would be helpful to me and probably other users as well, particularly the less experienced ones.

If an underlying goal of this forum is to help people feel confident in their decision making by separating wheat from marketing or audiophoolery chaff, your verbal magnification may accidentally detract from this over time -- either by confusing new readers or creating daylight for anti-consensus rhetoric to bleed in along with a newer userbase. Maintaining a strong site reputation as a no-bullshit resource for audio means wielding soapbox or bully pulpit positions responsibly. I loathe trying to glean useful info from the average HF product thread because of how little I trust the commentary from the most vocal believers. Less embellishment is likely to be better for everybody.

 

Psalmanazar caught a ban? That escalated quickly.

 

well he

1. got in an argument with zerofeedex

2. didn't like/ had a problem with eddie current


Probably the two biggest sins one could commit on this forum, trust

I actually PM'd him about a week ago after I saw his comments in the ZDS thread and warned him he's probably going to be banned if he continues.

 

and.... @Johan goes down. somehow this just got funny. but it is wrong to find humor in such situations, right? it must be wrong.

 

This thread turned into HFi material quick. And I was just trying to get advice on DACs, now I am afraid of what might happen if I ask about Planars/Tubes/Vinyl.

It is posts like the ones that were made on this thread by Psal, that have kept me from ever posting, contributing, and sure as hell not getting advice from head-fi.

Now I see that I must stay vigilant about that kind of advice even here.

 

not meant to detract from your point, which is fair. but you should always be vigilant of advice no matter where you go, because someone else might prefer or value things differently than you. even now, with people that i know super well on here, have met multiple times in person, and have talked about gear and music with for a long time, i feel like i understand their preferences and values and even then take suggestions and advice as guides and not gospel (even if i do agree in the end haha).

also there tends to be a backlash on sbaf when people create threads to ask for advice like this thread right here, because there are all purpose advice threads, and threads dedicated to specific components appropriate to more targeted and focused questions. this prevents the site from having a 1563622869 threads that ask variations on the same question as they have over on HF and what makes that site useless when it comes to reading through material that members worked hard (or not hard) to generate.

 

Agreed. I don't take anyone's advice or opinions as gospel. But there are certain people opinions that weight heavily compared to others. I will never tell anyone that A sounds better than B, I. An only offer my point of view and I am only interested in the same from others.

I am not the OP, I just saw the thread was already here and wanted to know how the OP solved his dilemma and how satisfied he was. I don't make a habit of starting threads. I never have actually.

 

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Hey guys...

So sorry I started this thread back in March. Looks like things got crazy here. (I believe this was the first and only thread I've started here.)

Anywhoo, I'm thinking of upgrading my idsd Black Label to pair with a new Jotunheim. (I sold the last one.) I listen to all my music through Tidal hifi, so I will unfortunately need to account for usb issues.

I'm thinking I should keep this until I'm ready to get a Gungnir Multibit. Is that the move, or is there a better upgrade path for me?

 

I'm confused by your wording. Are you selling the idsd Black Label and getting a Jot w internal DAC? Jot's internal DAC is kind of poo.

You could instead, get Modi Multibit, Eitr, and Magni 3 for just over the price of the Jot w internal DAC and IMO have a better system.

 

I got good deal on a secondhand amp-only Jot. I already have the idsd, and an planning to use its dac with the Jot.

I'm curious which dac is a consensus upgrade over the idsd.

Thanks for your help!

 

Will do. I found the Jot a tad hot in the treble when paired with the Emu Teak, so the slight warmth of the idsd Black Label might be a little more versatile pairing than with the Modi Multibit.