Coffee: we drink it or we get angry.

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  1. ultrabike

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    I bought the $129 non-Pro model, which is oriented towards drip grind and grinds slightly faster (the more expensive Pro model is better if you need espresso grind).
    https://www.amazon.com/1Zpresso-Manual-Coffee-Grinder-Light/dp/B07VNQYJDG
    I posted about here a few months ago and I've been very happy with it.
     
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    This looks proper, I like the internals. This has nonstepped adjustment?
     
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    I think a quality manual grinder might be worth 50 to 200, depending on the craftmanship. At least it will last a lifetime if properly put together , unlike the houshold plastic shovel / roaster that you need to buy every year.
     
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    I have a hario slim, cousin of the skerton. Its my travel grinder.
    It doesn't have bearings, so there is play in the burrs. I added tape to reduce the play, but can't completely fix.
    My much more expensive kinu has proper bearings, and no play to speak of.
    So its more consistent.
    I never tried to use my slim for espresso, didn't think it was up to the task.
    I also don't think the slim has fine enough adjustments for espresso.
    The slim feels like a toy in comparison, but for the price the kinu should be better lol

    Randy
     
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    Shrapnel city, would not trust for espresso unless pressurized basket.

    Fwiw kinu works for espresso, but I believe Hoffman has reviewed one around $99 that's capable of espresso grind.
     
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    The 1ZPresso has stepped adjustment, but the steps are small. JX has 24 settings, JX Pro has 40 settings.
    https://coffeechronicler.com/1zpresso-jx-review/
     
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    I am getting used to local roasts, they tend to be better than imported stuff. Better value and decent price.
     
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    Does anyone find decaf still makes them feel edgy? It gives me a bit of the edge, but without the caffeine buzz. Nescrappo decaf is the same, but I thought it was something to do with their particular "blend".
     
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    Decaf coffee will still have caffeine content so it is normal to feel edgy if you are sensitive to caffeine. I find that taking L-Theanine pill before coffee(I usually take 200mg for 250g of V60 coffee) helps with the edgy feel quite a lot.
     
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    Recently DIYed some water from this guide.
    https://www.baristahustle.com/blog/diy-water-recipes-redux/
    Using recipe 4 Barista Hustle Recipe and compare to the third wave water left from world's largest cupping by James Hoffmann.
    With same bean same method and same water temperature, I found that the brew from third wave water sweeter and more enjoyable.
    For less than 10cents a brew(not accounting for distilled water), I think it is worth a try.
     
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    A local roaster here got some Mario Enero Esmerelda Geisha. I picked up my 50g today, cost $50AUD!

    I've had a couple of Geishas before but this is supposed to be super amazing. Anyone had it?
     
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    Late arrival to this discussion, but this mirrors my experience. When I finally took the plunge on a Mazzer Mini around 12 years ago (how time flies!), it was simply incredible how much my shots improved in taste and consistency compared to my prior mid-tier burr grinder. With a temperamental non-PID Silvia, I was probably tossing one in four shots down the sink due to obvious bad extraction/no crema, and it all turned out to be grind issues. The Silvia died after about 9 years of pulling 4 - 6 double shots a day on average. The Mazzer is still going strong with occasional cleaning. It is a true workhorse. I replaced the Silvia with a Rocket, which I truly love after living with a single boiler all those years.

    You could take away all my pricey headphones, my Yggdrasil, my amps etc., and I'd still get a lot of joy listening to music out of a pair of $25 Koss phones or even my galaxy buds live. Take away my Mazzer though, and I'd be ordering another the next morning.
     
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    I had a bargain basement Panama Geisha and it was phenomenal. There's something truly special about those beans. I'd say any Geisha of halfway reputable provenance is worth trying.
     
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    Has anyone tried the Fellow Ode Brew Grinder yet? Wondering how loud it is and general usage impressions.
     
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    James hoffman did a vid on it and also comparison to similarly priced grinders.

    For me, i would go hand grinder like the comandante c40 unless you cant be bothered to do it while the water heats up. If you are doing espresso, you shouldnt even consider the ode as its not good for that.


     
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    I’ve watched a lot of the YouTube videos out there. Just was wondering if anyone here had got their hands on one. I already have a hand grinder I like; looking to replace my aging and very loud Baratza.
     
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    My home coffee making is usually either an AeroPress if I want a mug of coffee or a Flair Espresso if I want a shot of coffee. I have one of the signature models with a pressure gauge.

    The AeroPress is well known. Makes good coffee with a variety of different methods. Works well and is easy and consistent and predictable.

    The Flair Espresso machine is something different. I was surprised that it could make a real proper espresso that can actually taste good. It does. Well, it can. The issues are in repeatability and in controlling variables. There are some variables that you don't have good control over. It's a mix of winging it and hoping for the best. Temperature control is one that you don't have tight control over. Beans that go from sour to bitter over a narrow temperature range aren't a good choice to use with the Flair. The big trick to using the Flair is choosing beans that have a wider range of temperature and other variables and still make a suitable espresso shot. It won't be the best espresso I've ever had, but will be enjoyable and better than any espresso I've gotten from Starbucks. There are some very good coffees that I can't use with the Flair because the Flair doesn't have enough control of the variables to make a good espresso shot with that coffee.

    I use an Orphan Espresso Lido E hand grinder for the espresso machine. I pre-heat the Flair head unit by dunking it in boiling water and using canning tongs to get it out of the water. That helps with temperature consistency. But still doesn't allow the machine to get hot enough for lighter espresso roasts.

    Another issue with the Flair is it uses a bottomless portafilter. Which looks neat when pulling the shot. But can cause the espresso to squirt and shoot a stream of espresso on my counter and make a mess. I've nicknamed the Flair "Little Boy" because he is like a little boy learning how to pee into a toilet bowl.
     

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