DAP discussion thread

Don't forget that it also reverts to Chinese as the language when you update the software!

 

Same story with the production Questyle as with the prototypes: very good sound, very bad interface.

Screen is even harder to read than Pono's.

Wheel implementation is awful. Apple got this right a long time ago--why can't Questyle?

 

That's not good news. Is the wheel just clumsy and doesn't track or jumps two spaces when you meant to move one, etc.?

 

For me, the Questyle wheel requires far too much pressure to engage. A good wheel requires almost no pressure to sense the movement of your finger (I'm charging my old iPod to see whether my memories of how easy Apple wheels are to operate is accurate). and when you can get it to move, it overshoots/undershoots far too often.

It's certainly possible that YMMV, or that there is a learning process for either the device or the user or both. But I would have tendinitis in my thumb inside three days of heavy use.

 

No its not a rose colored memory right now I use a rwimod and the wheel is quoted fluid

 

Glad you were able to get it to work, but you lost me at "mod." Man's gotta know his limitations. If it doesn't work correctly out of the box, I am not interested.

 

I bought the xduoo x2 for that very reason. Well, to replace my Fuze, but same basic idea. The x2 is really tiny, but sound-wise, I'm not too impressed. Treble in particular seems unnatural. Cymbals and stuff sound too washed-out too, it's impossible to make out distinct hits of the drumstick. The x2 is still my default backup player in case the battery on my primary player dies on me while I'm out and about. But I guess we'll have to wait for the FiiO M3 to replace the Sansas on sound. Or the xduoo x3.

 

PAW Gold is $1600 in China. $2,037 is a bit rich. It is an excellent DAP and has ended my search in that department.

 

I was unaware of the M3 until now. I will buy the hell out of that.

 

Well hello there

 

I just briefly tried this : http://hum.hk/index.php/products/product-music-player/55-pervasion

Its limited to 16/44 on purpose, uses the stock android music player, has pretty poor battery life, not to mention the awful name, but it sounds ridiculously good, better than any of AK's offerings to me. The amp section drove my KSC-75s with authority and was quiet enough for IEMs too. Pricing where I am is at about USD$400, which screamed value to me in spite of its shortcomings.

 

Nice catch! I've been on the lookout for a good portable with a WM8741 (which you don't see often in mobile implementations). Almost picked up a used RWAK120-S/B last month just for that purpose.

Edit: Wow, and it has a true line out?! Bottom mounted headphone out and scroll wheel too. Very nice. You can also stream by Wi-Fi and load your own Android-based music player (UAPP, Onyko, Neutron, etc.). This is a pretty cool looking product.

 

This thing called "XUELIN IHIFI960 Dual-Core WM8740 LM49990"-- seems to be using that Wolfson too (obviously). Might worth checking out.

edit: and so does this "XUELIN IHIFI770C" using WM8740 too for less than $200 price bracket. Hmm, interesting.

 

Theres quite a difference between the WM8741 and WM8740 IMO.

 

hello,

tl;dr: does any current dap look to have the hardware ecosystem support as the iPod? or predictions on which one might have in future?

the way our situation works is that Mrs ForBin is required to have a totally separate music playback system at her job. she is not allowed to plug ANYTHING into her work computer (don't get me started on the advantages of a trackball vs. a mouse as a pointing device.) taking her laptop to work is not a viable alternative either, as a secure storage place is not really available.

due to this very strict limitation and not wanting to commit huge dollars into an at work solution, her current work system is an Icon iDo with a 160 g iPod Classic attached. on overtime days when there are fewer attendees, she uses a JBL OnStage to provide background music. all of these devices are served by the iPod.

with the death of the 30 pin Apple playback devices, there doesn't seem to be a strong contender for a do it all solution.

i was hoping that Sony would generate enough market share with the new Walkmans to make this happen, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

i may just be living a delusion as the days of the ubiquitous white buds and the players attached to them are long past. so this may just be wishful thinking on my part.

any thoughts?

edit: should have specified hardware ecosystem i.e. all in one dac/amps, speaker docks.

 

hello,

@velvetx, agreed edited previous post for clarity. was thinking hardware ecosystem, my bad.

 

just heard the calyx m today.... wow, amazing dap. Best I have ever heard. the battery is TERRIBLE though like 4-5 hours maybe. I swore I could watch the battery drain just staring at the bar. You can get some good deals on this used maybe around 600usd there is also a battery pack available for it but makes it bulky and more expensive. nice android UI

I heard the hm802u with the musical card (discrete) also, wasn't expecting much tbh, wasn't a fan of the orginal 901. Very nice sounding DAP. Close to the Calyx but maybe a little less refinement. Some might actually like it better if you prefer a very smooth rolled off sound, I wish I could of tried the minibox gold card. UI is craptastic, fiio level, annoying scroll wheel. Battery life is good though around 8-10 hours depending on the amp card. Very bulky, not really pocket-able unless you want people to think you have a boner. Got quite hot as well. I really like the new stepped volume control, way better then then the old one.

used my uerm to test..