Denon D7200 (new flagship)

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  1. OJneg

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    Surprised I'm hearing about this headphone just now. Looks like Denon has a new flagship that's more in line with the classic D7xxx series. Promises of biocellulose and wood grain goodness.


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  2. Eudis Fernandes

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    The hype is real for me. Im always excited for new biodyna cans, but this one is bringing a redsigned driver.

    Imo it looks like they went back to ahd7000 and took another route. Driver changes galore. Driver ring has ovaloid ports rather than round. Diaphragm looks to be modified in the center, will probably push more air for a better cleaner lowend. Cups are back to a ahd7000 design so expect a nicer mid range. Baffle looks some what the same. Driver plate and sealing foam has been changed for the better. Looks like a better seal (more bass and lower mid range) but the ovaloid driver holes will even out the highs.

    Im hoping the changes will remove the traditional 3khz-4khz dip and 8khz-9khz void found in nearly all AHD d7000 and Fostex TH headphones.


    Eta was December if I remember correctly. It was slated for 599 or 699 EURO I think. Hoping for a 599-699 use price. Insta buy for me. Im hoping Denon brings in a d2200 and d5200 too.

    Now I can tell yall that the biggest and most immediate change will come to the highs. When I removed the dampening paper of TH900 drivers rings the highs instantly improved. Especially the 8khz-9khz void, all gone. Since I can immediately see that the ring port holes are ovaloid there will be less restriction.

    Hype.
     
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    Looks more like a ring-radiator type design, no?

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    Yes actually. Shits gunna be pushing more air.
     
  5. Eudis Fernandes

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    [​IMG]

    Heres a picture of Fostex TH900 driver naked with out dampening paper. I removed during modding. See the ring with all the holes?

    Now check out the shitting screeny below. This will make a pretty big difference.

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    I just would like them to be a REAL closed-back headphone dammit!!! Not like all of these Fostex stuff leaking sound all around the place! :)
     
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    TH900 level technicalities with a non-screwed up FR in a biodyna would be a hell of a compelling TOTL package...
     
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    Fingers crossed for these cans. If they deliver in sq and adequate isolation I for one will surely toss my Ether C's out. I'm tired of trying to love those god damn overpriced ear piercing lah-di-dah headphones. Phew. Finally got it out of my system.
     
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    A "dimple dome" such as the SB Acoustics tweeter pictured above will move less air than a cone of the same size.It has less cone area, and due to the centerpoint anchor has less potential throw as well.

    That said, the new Denon looks interesting. I have a pair of D2000s that I thought were a huge improvement over my HD580s...until I changed the original ~20 year old pads on the 580s and my opinion dramatically reversed. I'd love to hear how (if at all) they've improved the design.
     
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    Did they not bother finishing the cups? At least with the D2/5/7000 the cup finish improved quite a bit as you moved up.
     
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    My bad, the way I worded it could have been better.

    The center portion of the diaphragm looks to be the same but the ring around the center seems to concave more. That is what I mean about being similar to the tweeter above.

    Picture for reference.

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    So fostex th-610 vs denon d7200 now? They seem to be priced equally.
    Edit: nope ignore this. D7200 is definitely pricier. Sorry my bad.
     
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    Any confirmation about whether or not they're using Fostex drivers again?
     
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    Hi all.
    In some shops in Spain now you can find the new Denon 7200, and is easy to buy it in Germany, shops like Elektrowelt24, Stassen-hifi, etc.
    Selling price is 799€. Looking for the specs offered by Denon (very very close to Fostex 610) and the selling price here, is easy to fill the blanks, smell like Fostex spirit, at least I therms of driver units.
    I cannot confirm it, obviously, but if the New Denon is a TRUE closed Fostex 6xx, with better materials, maybe is a good option.
     
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    I had one right now, very smooth sounding, just too flat for me.
     
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    Nice new!

    Could you explain more? Is close to Denon D7000?
     
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    too early to make a good assessment but still a few snippets:

    It's much cleaner and more detailed than the D7000, like a strongly matured version, and doesn't have the boom and neither its peaks, nor does it have any peaks like the TH-900 which stand out like spartan spears in a warm monster cloud of farts. It's indeed a departure from that signature type but only slightly so (mids are less recessed for instance) and the Fostex blood still flow through their veins. I think they wanted to go from the excitement (strong v/u shapes) to a more "mature" tuning. I have to say they nailed it when compared to the T5 2G which turned out to be the most lifeless headphone I ever heard. Normally I refrain from such a statement because I can't make up lifeless or boring/sterile in technical terms. Maybe it's a bullshit term but The T5p seemed like dead as the PM-3, only that the T5p's corpse is full of nails and spears and kills you when you touch it (tesla treble peaks and sharpness).

    Yes, it's rather "flat" tuned and goes down very low where it can still thump and kick, for instance more than a HD800 SD modded. It doesn't have the midbass bleed of the TH-X00, yet also not the midbass "focus" on which the TH-X00 builds its bass charachter (and goes on my nerves sooner or later with its boomyness).
    Bass has more body/definition, tightness or let's say is less distorted/uncontrolled and leaves the mids more breathing room and space to shine. More on those later though.

    Generally has less brightness than the HD800SD which itself is less strident than the T5p 2G.

    brightness/annoyance: T5 2G.......TH900....HD800SD............D7200......HD 650.

    I wanted a nice a comparison to those E-MU Teak but unfortunately I wasn't fast enough to shoot them for 500 bucks (consider import taxes in Germany=1,21x(price+shipping)
     
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    Thanks for your precise comments. At these price point, 799, looks like a nice option in closed cans.
     
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    I also have had mine for a week already. The tuning is a lot more balanced and less v-shaped compared to its predecessor.
     
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    I hope find some measurements soon. My local dealer have some units and I don't want to make a blind buy.
    I look for a balanced sound.

    Anybody knows if it's a Fostex driver?
     

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