Dummies Guide to Pi2AES! Throw away your PC or laptop.

Can you put some files on a USB drive and plug it into the pi to see if you can play locally? I just want to rule out any kind of hardware issue.

 

I had constant problems with Moode and Volumio disappearing from my network until I set the wifi up with a static IP address. I haven’t had any connection problems since.

 

Thank you

I don’t know how I would connect to the Pi2AES to play the files. Sorry for my internet tech ignorance.

 

As a test of it just booting try disconnecting the headphone instance and reboot the troublesome pi and try to ssh to moode.local, if that doesn’t prompt for authentication then it didn’t boot and there are other problems (a quick & dirty test of the hardware setup would be to boot with the working headphone microsd in the speaker pi, if that works then you’ve pretty much ruled out any hardware issues aside from a failing microsd card which is rare but happens).

It might also be worth scanning wifi networks for the ad-hoc “Moode” one which pops up when no network is detected, if that’s there then maybe there’s an issue with the ethernet cable or connection or something.

 

I’m weary of doing anything to the working Pi2AES because if I loose that it’s back to usb.

I do have another micro sd card i could try

do I really have another broken Pi2AES? I think the description of the incident makes that very unlikely. Bubbblupnp was going bonkers logging me out of tidal and both Pi2AES were undiscoverable. The Pi2AES itself somehow breaking amidst all that is very unlikely.

edit:
i realized one of your suggestions was easy

with my headphones Pi2AES unplugged from power, moode.local won’t load.

 

I have a second brand new sd card and just re downloaded moode and flashed this new card and swapped them out.

I tried every “generic” ip listed in fing and none would load.

 

Try swapping the entire Pi2AES units between the two locations and see what happens.

Also try connecting the bad one to your router with an ethernet cable. See if it shows up on Fing and whether you can connect to it. If you can, it's working but just can't connect to wifi (try restarting the router). If you still can't connect even on cable connection, there may be a hardware issue with the unit.

 

good idea. That won’t compromise the one that’s working.

I’ve done all this. It’s currently connected to Ethernet directly to the router and has a new sd card flashed with a fresh download of moode.

the router was reset too with no affect.

 

The plot thickens.

I use a remote outlet on off switch to reset my Pi2AES and it’s a round thing that magnetically attached to my rack. Yesterday I noticed it was upside down It must have gotten knocked off and someone put it back upside down. So I was turning it off instead of on and vice versa. Probably the only thing that was originally wrong.



Dumbest mistake everrrrrr. So I thought that meant I had it figured out. But it still isn’t showing up.

I swapped my working headphones Pi2AES as card into the speakers Pi2AES that isn’t working and it showed up as headphones Pi2AES. So it’s not a hardware issue.

I put the new SD card with a fresh flash of moode back into it and put my headphones Pi2AES card back in my headphones Pi2AES.

as soon as I did this and turned on both Pi2AES for sure everything went bonkers.

3 headphone Pi2AES showed up in FING all with different IP addresses.



And two headphones Pi2AES showed up in bubbleupnp. Only one of them works though. Bubbleupnp won’t play music when one was selected the other worked fine.



Then later only 2 showed up in FING without me changing anything



Now I’m back to one headphone Pi2AES showing up in both FING and bubbleupnp without me doing anything.





I tried all the generic IP adresses again looking for the speakers Pi2AES but none of them load.

So I know the speakers Pi2AES I has no hardware issue. And I know it’s on now

But I’m still in the same place where I can’t find the speakers Pi2AES.

my only thought is that I must have been hot swapping the SD card because the on off buttons were backwards and maybe this corrupted it. And I should try to re flash it again….. Jesus.

any ideas wtf might be going on here?

what should a freshly flashed SD card show up as in FING? I would think it would be callled moode. Not a generic IP address.

 

I've had similar things happen in the past - I believe it is router related. The "old" pi2aes still has an IP address assigned to it in the router and the "new" pi2aes is being assigned a new IP address... so you see both in FING. If I remember correctly, it went away when the router released the old IP address after it wasn't used for a period of time (or you can manually go into the router and release it).

This is one of the reasons I went with static IP addresses on all of my stuff that is in my house. The only things that get DHCP addresses are visitors (or new stuff that I haven't assigned a static IP to yet).

Of course, I could also be completely wrong and you could have something else going on... that's networks for you.

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FWIW, my version of Fing looks completely different... it tells me what the device is (ie., Raspberry Pi) and even has a little raspberry icon on the left side of the screen where you're just has the dashed circle

 

I don’t know how to assign static IP addresses

Any ideas how to get my speakers working again? I seem to have knocked off all potential problems.

 

I'm not enough of a moode or network guru to really be much help. I think the key is that you're really starting from scratch with a new flash card... you need to go thru all the initial setup, which means knowing the IP address (assuming that it's actually being found by your router).

Can you plug an actual network cable into it... or is it running on wifi?

Do you know how to log into your router and see what devices it says are connected?

 

I’ve got it plugged into the router via Ethernet cable and I. Trying to follow the standard setup procedures.

Fing finds all devices on my network it the speakers Pi2AES is not showing up.

I guess I will re flash the SD card a third time if no one has any other ideas.

 

When you power up the pi do its leds flash in any pattern? Normally one should be steady and the other blink with activity but there are some error codes it can show if it encounters an error. I’ve never used a local screen so don’t know what happens if you boot moode connected to hdmi but it should at least show some boot text. You might also look to see if the moode wifi hotspot is active which happens on a fresh install where there’s no network connection.

Maybe try swapping ethernet cables/ports?

Since it booted the headphones microsd you could dupe that card then rename it.

 

ooh this is an interesting idea. But wtf is going on here? I wish I knew the problem instead of just hacking a (very smart) solution.

 

What wifi router do you have? However you configure it (on web browser or with an app) should have a way to set up static IP addresses.

 

I erased and reflashed the speakers sd card again and FING showed 2 headphones Pi2AES. I tried one and it wasn’t actually my headphones Pi2AES nothing was named or setup in moode. So I found it finally! I set it all up as normal. Named it. Restarted it. I haven’t unplugged it from Ethernet yet. But as soon as I went to bubbleupnp to see if it was showing up now suddenly neither Pi2AES is showing up.

WTF. This system is seriously fucked.

I restarted both Pi2AES from within moode again and restarted my Samsung s10e and it still won’t see either Pi2AES. And I didn’t change anything to the headphones Pi2AES!

Also in FING it’s showing 3 headphones Pi2AES and no speakers Pi2AES. Even the IP that is the speakers Pi2AES and which I renamed is being called headphones Pi2AES. And I have no I what the 3rd one is.

going to try to assign static IP addresses. Do I just use FING to check what the IP address is and assign it that?

 

I'd suggest you uninstall and reinstall Bubble. I've not used it much in the last several years, but my earlier experience with it is that it may fail to forget earlier network data.

I don't know if this is from Android/FING caching of network data, or from your router's DHCP. It looks to me as if various devices are remembering old networking information.

What does your router allow you to do? Some routers allow you to examine current DHCP mappings and make them static. I'd rather do that than relying on FING, because setting a bad IP address for a device, for example one that conflicts with another device, is kind of a nightmare.

 

When you set a static IP you want to make sure it is outside the range of addresses your router is assigning with DHCP.

The old name showing up in fing isn’t unusual, that happens to me too. I think it caches the name for a while.

If both IPs are working via the web interface I wouldn’t worry as much about the static IP for now. Getting it to show up with UPnP … not sure other than double checking the UPnP settings, force quit BubbleUPnP (or if it has a force refresh for UPnP devices do that) and then simply waiting a while. Unfortunately UPnP is unreliable crap.

 

Thank you

I’m not mobile I’m stuck in bed due to a chronic illness and no one here has any idea about doing something like this with our router. I may be stuck.

here’s what I’m seeing now.

I’ve got both Pi2AES connected in safari via WiFi (Ethernet cable disconnected) and have named both.



But FING is constantly changing what it reports. An hour ago it showed 3 headphones Pi2AES now it shows one “moode” and one “headphones Pi2AES”

An hour ago



Now



Bubbleupnp now shows headphones Pi2AES but not speakers Pi2AES.

Another strange thing is a difference in settings options for each.

Speaker Pi2AES has an extra setting under “hifidigiberry pro +”

headphones



Speakers Pi2AES



My network settings must be correct because in a. Connect to both over WiFi in safari.

I need both an internet IT guy and a therapist to figure this out I think.