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    What pot do you have installed MisterRogers?
     
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    dude, that is such a loaded question for us in Colorado.
    :rolleyes:
     
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    Heh. Mine has a P&G Pot.
     
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    Really digging the final aesthetics of the Studio. Especially the knob. I think it would be cool to see similar design principles applied to more affordable EC products in the future. I know the ZDS already has the two tone body. The knob just kind of ties it all together, so to speak.
     
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    Early this morning, first chance to just sit and listen to Studio. Feeding it now with a DIY DAC (4490, discrete IV, balanced). This amp is stupid good - even fed by a 'lesser' DAC. Staging is precise - wide and deep. tonality is spot on. Everything's there. Everything. I'm hearing subtle harmonies I haven't noticed before. Presentation is balanced, bottom to top. Tonality is neutral - just enough tube goodness for it not to be dry / lean.

    I do not find bass to be light at all. I'm running a quad of RCA 2A3 black plates, WE417A drivers.

    I'm uploading some music for other Studio / Yggdrasil owners to try - see if they're getting distortion. I've ordered some in-line balanced attenuators to cool Yggdrasil's signal a bit. Question though for Marv / Dr; I've never need to go beyond 10O'clock for any album, and that's pretty loud. Obviously this will vary a bit depending on your DAC / Headphone (Yggdrasil, other DAC's, HE1K). What's your experience?
     
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    We went to max volume on Adam's Studio to power his 88db efficient speakers to low-moderate volumes, there weren't any issues.

    Can you try digital attenuation (to lower Yggdrasil output voltage) just to check to see if this is the issue?
     
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    Yep, that's exactly the issue; haven't had a chance to to try and measure Yggdrasil output, but attenuation downstream of Studio addresses the issue. I'll be sending you and Dr. a link to music that clips to test, but I'd be very surprised if it'll distort for you. Worth a check though. I'm not a fan of dithered attenuation, so I ordered some quality in-line attenuators to bring down Yggdrasil's output level.
     
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    Yeah, I've never had a problem, balanced or otherwise with the volume turned all the way up. I've even had the volume turned all the way up and a pre-amp feeding it so it'd get louder and didn't have any problems.
     
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    I know some of you know that I just sold all my gear because I don't use it enough, which I still think was a good choice.

    But I am only human, and I have been lusting after an EC445 ever since Marv first mentioned it(it's basically a "mini" Studio right? So therefor thread relevant? :p)

    So this is tempting me entirely too hard...someone buy it before my tax returns come in so I don't accidentally do so. It would absolutely be end game for my 650s...it even comes with the WE 417As

    http://www.head-fi.org/t/793274/ic-eddie-current-445
     
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    Marv likes dead neutral amps with dark cans. The 445 was phenomenal but I found it a little sterile. That might be a great pairing with the HD650 but I don't really find it to be "the amp" for the HD800. For the HD800 I'd prefer the ZDS, new BA (if you like that slightly romantic sound), or the studio jr.
     
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    JUST DO IT.

    I would have been all over those if they were 230v or shipping internationally.
     
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    I am considering the 45 for my Studio. We just completed a 45 Studio version of a customer in China. I think most people would probably prefer the 2A3, but the 45 is really special. Just the sweetest clearest treble ever. I would generally advise against it because of the lack of choice in 45 tubes.
     
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    At this rate, we might need to get 6 each, the 445, 2A3 and 300B with either Tributes or Monoliths. :D
     
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    ...Now we're getting into WA 234 territory...
     
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    Or even better there's that Moth 2A3 on the classifieds too, but in France and selling for $4,300

    http://www.head-fi.org/t/786553/moth-2a3-second-version
     
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    I'm not sure that would be better though...its not transformer interstage coupled(I think the 445 has cinemag interstages?) and it doesn't have the cinemag OPT with the tertiary winding that I'm pretty sure the 445 has as well. Nor does it have the paralleled output tubes.

    I guess Marv can correct my knowledge of the transformers in the 445 if I'm off base haha
     
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    The lack of choice is all the more appealing to me, no need to tube roll that way haha


    Alas my wallet crisis has been averted, I guess he's recovering from an injury and doesn't want to ship USPS to an APO, and he also isstill in the fence about whether he wants to sell it at all.


    Edit: JWahl, I also don't think that Moth would have the high frequency heaters either?
     
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    Craig won't service Moth products. He worked for Joel, but Moth was never his company. He can get cranky when asked about reconditioning or fixing Moth stuff. I don't blame him. I certainly wouldn't want to do technical support for gear from a company that I a worked for ten years ago which is no longer around. The Moth 2A3 is a great amp. It's actually coupled between the stages with a resistor, but there are some oddities such as uneven FR depending upon the position of the pot. The aesthetic design of that amp is my favorite. Unfortunately form doesn't follow function with that Moth unit. The demands of artistry dictated the terms of the design, and there are some issues which make it more likely to fail by now if not earlier. Just make sure you know a good electronics repair guy before buying that amp.
     
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    Could be worse, it could be those Eimac monos Moth made back in the day.
     
  20. mtoc

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    Is Craig a member of our BBS? We always mention him but he never shows up...someone should invite him to join us (maybe he has too much work).
     
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