Elekit TU-8900 2A3\300B Single Ended DHT Tube Amp - Build, Impressions, and Review

Discussion in 'Headphone Amplifiers and Combo (DAC/Amp) Units' started by Maven86, Oct 19, 2021.

  1. Tachikoma

    Tachikoma Almost "Made"

    Contributor
    Joined:
    Oct 4, 2015
    Likes Received:
    430
    Trophy Points:
    63
    The general consensus, I think, is series resistors = bad, parallel resistors = not really a problem.
     
  2. Joskus

    Joskus New

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2021
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Location:
    Oslo
    Very useful information!
     
  3. Joskus

    Joskus New

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2021
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Location:
    Oslo
    Well underway!

    Do you think it is okay to use the leftover wires from the big 5W resistors as jumpers, or is a copper wire preferrable?

    See image: https://flic.kr/p/2mW86mR
    [​IMG]
     
    Last edited: Jan 8, 2022
  4. TheloniuSnoop

    TheloniuSnoop Friend

    Pyrate Contributor
    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2015
    Likes Received:
    596
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    Gold Canyon, AZ
    Resistor leads are fine.
     
  5. Joskus

    Joskus New

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2021
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Location:
    Oslo
    Noted!

    I am installing some audio note mylar coupling capacitors to replace the stock ones. In the instruction, it says "For those capacitors wrapped with a film make sure to connect the outer side of the electrode to the lower impedance side of the pin (anode side)...

    I can see which pin this is on the main unit board, but how do I go about doing this? I can seem to find any good pictures of others that have done this. Maybe I am misunderstanding something?
     
  6. yotacowboy

    yotacowboy McRibs Kind of Guy

    Pyrate Contributor
    Joined:
    Feb 23, 2016
    Likes Received:
    10,845
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    NOVA
    Home Page:
    "Directionality

    As you can see from the above pictures, each of our signal capacitors is marked with a line on the right; this marks the start of the foil. It is our experience that the Audio Note (UK)™ capacitors perform best when the start of the foil is "facing" the incoming signal."

    https://www.audionote.co.uk/foil-signal-capacitors
     
  7. Joskus

    Joskus New

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2021
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Location:
    Oslo
    Got ya!

    I thought the idea was to add a cable somehow, but it's just about direction.

    Thanks a ton:bow:
     
  8. Joskus

    Joskus New

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2021
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Location:
    Oslo
    EagleWings, is the position of the yellow jumper sockets in the image you showed where it needs to be for your mod?
     
  9. EagleWings

    EagleWings Friend

    Pyrate Contributor
    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2017
    Likes Received:
    1,709
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    India
    @Joskus , in that config, it doesn’t matter where the yellow jumper is, in fact you don’t even have to have it plugged in.

    But I came up with an idea just last week, which will allow us to easily swap between ‘with-parallel-resistor’ config and ‘without-parallel-resistor’ config, by swapping the jumper. All you need to do is, put the 15R resistors in the R129/229 positions instead of the R123/223 positions. Now by swapping the yellow jumper between LZ-L and HZ-H positions, you will be swapping between ‘with-parallel-resistor’ and ‘without-parallel-resistor’ configs respectively.
     
  10. Joskus

    Joskus New

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2021
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Location:
    Oslo
    Ah wow! That's perfect.

    And I just finished... the amp worked AMAZING for 20 min then suddenly the right channel dropped out..

    gutted!

    Edit: My Sylvania tubes measured almost 5V different. Is that bad?
     
  11. Joskus

    Joskus New

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2021
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Location:
    Oslo
    Solved and fixed: problems with a capacitor.

    Already it sounds stunning. This is my first DIY audio project and my first tube amp!

    Thanks kindly for all the support, tips and tricks
     
  12. EagleWings

    EagleWings Friend

    Pyrate Contributor
    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2017
    Likes Received:
    1,709
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    India
    I'm glad you were able to get it fixed. As for your question about the tubes, I am not familiar. Hopefully someone else can chime in.
     
  13. Joskus

    Joskus New

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2021
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Location:
    Oslo
    I get a electric tingling from touching the chassis. Its quite pronounced. I wonder why.. grounding issue of sort perhaps?

    I also get it when touching it, even when its off (especially the front aluminium pannel)
     
  14. Beefy

    Beefy Friend

    Pyrate
    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2021
    Likes Received:
    1,741
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    Canada
    Test voltage with a multimeter, DC and AC, from a non-anodized surface to ground. Screw head on the front panel would be ideal.
     
  15. Joskus

    Joskus New

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2021
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Location:
    Oslo
    When the amp was ON:
    Measuring from ground (water tubes in house) to screw head on front panel I get a reading of 52 Vac. For Vdc the reading was to erratic to gauge any spesfic value.

    When the amp was OFF, but still plugged in:
    Reading of 52 Vac. Reading of 0 Vdc.
     
  16. Beefy

    Beefy Friend

    Pyrate
    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2021
    Likes Received:
    1,741
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    Canada
    Yeah, you need to pull that amp from the wall immediately, you have something in the power supply shorting to the chassis.

    [EDIT] I re-read you post and funky things can happen when you measure ground to plumbing. It's probably accurate, but just measuring to signal ground is probably better.

    The chassis anodising might be the only thing preventing you from popping a fuse or getting a *real* zap.
     
    Last edited: Jan 11, 2022
  17. Joskus

    Joskus New

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2021
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Location:
    Oslo
    That's very concerning. I have checked all the values internally, and all seem within margin. The values for the two power tunes varied by 5 V, but other than that all was good. The wires from the power supply does not touch anything they shouldn't. I really have no idea where to start.

    I have a feeling it might have something to do with the coupling capacitors, as I had to cut the silver leads and resolder them as the inital instalment crashed with the top plate of the chassis. (long story, pictures are coming).

    Also the build is with the Lundahl transformers.

    I will pick it apart and send pictures later today.

    Thanks a lot
     
  18. Beefy

    Beefy Friend

    Pyrate
    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2021
    Likes Received:
    1,741
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    Canada
    Just keep in mind, I don't have this amp, no circuit diagram, no ability to go through instructions. But voltage that high on the chassis, enough to give you a tingle, is concerning.

    That said, I'd start at the power switch, mains entry, and check you aren't pinching wires from the transformers when the chassis went together.
     
  19. TheloniuSnoop

    TheloniuSnoop Friend

    Pyrate Contributor
    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2015
    Likes Received:
    596
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    Gold Canyon, AZ
    Keep in mind that the exposed metal on the top of electrolytic capacitors will carry a voltage. If you're using metal standoffs for the circuit boards, check them to see if any are making contact with traces on the boards.
     
  20. Joskus

    Joskus New

    Joined:
    Dec 22, 2021
    Likes Received:
    11
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Location:
    Oslo
    Well finally it's fixed.. it must have something to do with the cable management from the power supply, as suggested by Beefy. Now none of the wires from the Lundahl transformers touch the power transformer NOR the casing itself. I made paddings of electrical tape at every point where the wires touch the casing.

    The biggest problem was likely that I taped some of the cables to the case itself, in order to guide the cables and avoid crosstalk between the power transformer and the output transformers.

    I think the measurements I did using the waterpipe as ground was way off. As Beefy pointed out, waterpipes does not necessarily provide reliable ground. I measured it against the ground in my kitchen, and the multimeter shows 18.3 Volts! Does this mean I can charge my phone off the watertubes?! I need to have this checked out.

    Anyhow... the amp sounds sweet like nectar and is not threatening to kill me anymore. Again, thanks for all your support!
     

Share This Page