Fuck MQA - Bob Stuart is a wanker

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  1. ogodei

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    @Ruined, agreed on all that. I use Tidal for Roon integration but honestly I thought MQA died a few years back.
     
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    That's part of the marketing strategery, the essential part in my view. Unless you have intentionally set up Roon to only stream compressed (AAC/MP3 - I forget which one Tidal uses) and/or multi-click on "versions" and choose the non-MQA version (if there is one left. they are disappearing with each passing day) you have in fact been streaming MQA all this time, more and more with each passing day/month/year.

    Roon/Tidal/MQA/various labels/Bob Stuart understand that if they make it such that you 'forget about it' then they have the market by default.
     
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    This is pretty interesting:
    https://www.head-fi.org/threads/tidal-masters-mqa-thread.838888/post-16293287

    I am currently working on a video investigating MQA and the performance of the "Unfolding" technique.
    For this I had some tracks published on tidal, in MQA. These tracks contained various test signals such as impulse response, square wave, white noise, multitone, and even the entire RMAA test sequence.

    After collecting all evidence and documenting all the discovered issues (some of which have not yet been discussed elsewhere), I contacted MQA to give them a chance to comment prior to this video (and post here) going live, and to discuss it further if needed, or to do further testing if they felt there was an issue.

    They have not responded to me, BUT, they have had my tracks pulled from Tidal, and have spoken to the publisher I used to have them block me.

    Read the entire post at the link.
     
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    If he was really able to get an impulse response encoded that is significant. Makes sense that Tidal would slip up here given their batch processing of massive amounts of tracks/albums. The unveiling of this fraud will be much more complete if all this is true.

    edit: also it's already gone it would seem from tidal/roon. I wonder if HF has rhe balls to keep his post
     
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    I use both Tidal and Qobuz. I do like the UI for Tidal, but prefer the sound quality of Qobuz. Between the two, they mostly cover my needs. There's also my local content. Too bad Tidal won't offer truly lossless music.
     
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    I wouldn't be surprised if MQA try to flag it once it is on Youtube. Youtube tends to pull down and ask questions later. This could be a whole messy fight with Golden Sound needing to simply upload an MP4 somewhere. Or it could just stay up :) Looking forward to it either way. The idea that a few test signals could either reveal too much about patented, proprietary technology, enough to endanger their IP is ridiculous. It is equally ridiculous that they would be that scared of what standard test signals could reveal about the process.
     
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    Hopefully he will not depend upon Youtube/Google/Facebook/Twitter, and all the rest of agenda driven Big Tech. I don't keep up with such things, but surely there is a site out there that will host his content without worrying about stepping on MQA's sensitive and litigious toes.

    I expect the test signals to reveal that MQA is nothing other than a clever compression scheme that avoids "pre ringing" through known art - namely slow roll off "minimum phase" filtering. They don't want test signals because they have made extraordinary claims about the uniqueness of their supposed "post shannon" tech, and how accurate it is to the original signal. They don't want the veil pulled back, they just want to continue to assert/market, so they are "scared" in a sense. Still when the veil does come back it won't be the end of them because this is audio where snake oil has a very long shelf life.
     
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