General Speaker Advice and Recommendations

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  1. bixby

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    Or something my friend put together. 2A3s sounded great through them.

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  2. ogodei

    ogodei MOT: Austin AudioWorks

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    Like these ? These are in my areas & I was considering them but If I can actually find Cornwall IVs at $4000 thats probably a better deal for me.

    Im actually building a set of horns right now, their just not going to be finished any time soon. Look good though...
     
  3. zerodeefex

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    Build your own speakers and bi-amp.
     
  4. fraggler

    fraggler A Happy & Busy Life

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    Are Ascend Sierra 1s still a good buy? Anything better in the sub$1000 range that also has a matching center channel? Only have room for bookshelves or slim towers.
     
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    Like these ? These are in my areas & I was considering them but If I can actually find Cornwall IVs at $4000 thats probably a better deal for me.



    Im actually building a set of horns right now, their just not going to be finished any time soon. Look good though...[/QUOTE]

    Classic Klipsch Heritage speakers Have gone through quite a bit of inflation the last couple of years so that price might not be too out of line. The Cornwall II was more refined and would maybe need fewer upgrades. The trick is to find a pair that isn’t beat to crap. If you expand your Craigslist search to include eastern Iowa you might have better luck. The old dealer in Cedar Rapids, where I worked and managed for a while, was the biggest Klipsch dealer in the Midwest, possibly the country. So there are probably quite a few pairs near me. However a lot of guys don’t want to let them go.

    Another candidate would be the LaScala. It has better minds and highs but IMO kinda needs a sub. Which is why I think the Cornwall hits the best balance of performance in the line.
     
  6. dmckean44

    dmckean44 In a Sherwood S6040CP relationship

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  7. drgumbybrain

    drgumbybrain Science Nut

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    ahoooyy friends. how you doing? hope you are safe!

    I really need some advice from you. Im playing around with 2 Dynaudio passive speakers, an active sub and a vintage yamaha mx-1000. After weeks of testing, I think I do need a crossover or a in line high pass filter.
    My room has to much bass from those Dynaudio special 30 speakers..... there is no good placement., and I just cannot work with the sub. the bass energy in my Room its just too much. room treatment its not a choice until 2021.
    Im studying some inline high pass filter, and I was wondering if anyone can recommend me those.
    They look much simpler to work. I saw those:

    1. https://www.amazon.com/Shure-A15HP-High-Pass-Filter/dp/B00075VQRO/ref=sr_1_1?crid=120640NT9TD80&dchild=1&keywords=inline+high+pass+filter&qid=1599062593&sprefix=in+line+high+pass,aps,214&sr=8-1

    the problem here, all my connection are RCA


    2. https://www.parts-express.com/harrison-labs-fmod-inline-crossover-pair-100-hz-high-pass-rca--266-274

    don't know if those are good quality

    thank you for any help

    cheers

    David
     
  8. bixby

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    I'm not sure those devices will help much.

    I know of a case of a smaller room that had a huge 20+ db peak in the bass and it was tamed easily. Typically these room nodes are helped by a notch filter. First you need to figure out where the node is (frequency), then use a parametric eq plugin with your player software and pull dpwn that peak(s).

    If using a cd player you are limited to using a physical piece of hardware like a standalone peq. Good luck taming the gremiln.
     
  9. rlow

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    Agree with @bixby here, EQ could handle this, but you need to figure out where the peak(s) are. I would suggest get a UMIK and use REW to measure the response, which is what I did. At this point you’re in search of a solution to a problem you don’t fully understand. In addition to possibly not addressing the issue with that solution, the sound of high passing at 100hz may make your subwoofer way, way too noticeable - a sub should blend with your mains and disappear and 100Hz is too high IMO.
     
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    Thank you all. Never thought i could correct this in the player!!
     
  11. bixby

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    Great idea ↑

    And if you don't want to spend any money yet, but still want an idea of what you are dealing with, just get a pink noise file to play through your setup and use your cell phone and a program like Audizr (Android, free) which will do a decent job of getting you close to where the problem lies.
     
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    If your player ( like foobar or Jriver) accepts vst plugins, then a free program like Tokyo Dawn Records - Nova or the free EQ plugin for Reaper (my fave at the moment) work.
     
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    Can any owners of Klipsch Forte III speakers confirm if they are truly Bi-amp able? IE using a different amp to power each of the HF and LF binding posts of the speaker.
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  14. rlow

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    From the specs sheet...

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    Considering it has dual binding posts with jumper straps, is there a reason why do you doubt this?

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    There’s mixed messages on other sites even though Klipsch lists bi-amp in the specs. Some say it’s just bi-wire and not bi-amp capable. Do the presence of jumper straps confirm possible bi-amp use?
     
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    Measure impedance between the posts with jumpers off. + and +, - and - . It should be infinite.
     
  17. rlow

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    I would email Klipsch support about this - They list bi-amp right in the specs. If they say no passive biamping, ask why and report back.
    What does this tell you @Hrodulf? Is it possible the crossover is not setup properly to accept passive biamping?
     
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    Hrodulf Prohibited from acting as an MOT until year 2050

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    I'm 99.9% sure that dual sets binding posts mean that bi-amping AND bi-wiring is possible. Measuring impedance between them would be a sure way to find out.
     
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    ButtUglyJeff Stunningly beautiful IRL

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    May I ask what you ended up going with? I like the idea of the Cornwalls, but that's an expensive proposition.

    Have you looked at Bob Crites speakers that can be kits or prebuilt?

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    https://critesspeakers.com/crites-speaker-style-b.html
     
  20. crazychile

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    I think that Crites option makes a lot of sense. I'm normally discouraged by high cost kits since I can't audition first, but I've heard several pairs of Klipsch that had Crites mods to trust that these speakers are probably pretty legit. My buddy went through a series of Crites upgrades on original Cornwalls, (as well as LaScalas, and KHorns) and the transformations pretty much removed the nasties and shortcomings of the originals. This then led him to design his own CornScalas from what he learned and they are amazing. Also consider that used Cornwall I and IIs occasionally come up for sale between $1800 and $2800 in my area and still need modding, figure even if these Crites speakers end up being $2200-$2400 with shipping, you've got a really sweet speaker for a very reasonable price.

    Edit: Even though I haven't heard the latest Cornwall IVs, I think Id still take the Crites speakers unless you want a prettier cabinet.
     

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