HiFiMAN HE1000 v2 + HEX v2 release soon?

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  1. Thenewerguy009

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    Did you find the soundstage to be narrower vs the V1?
    Or were the mids or vocals slightly distant/diffused sounding like with the V1?
     
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    My DAC is incapable of producing stage, so I can’t honestly say. I found the mids to be better on the v1.
     
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    The Cardas cables I've had were not very flexible (physically). Personally, I'd highly recommend @Forza AudioWorks. He'll make pretty much anything you want, build quality is flawless & his cables are super flexible (which is the most important factor for me). I've got five Forza cables / pigtails, with another (for IEMs) in the works.

    Quick & dirty pic of my Forza HEK v2 cable...

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    Pretty sure that's the same "domed magnet" feature as what they implemented in Susvara. I think it's safe to say that HFM uses a trickle-down approach to refreshing the tech in its lineup.
     
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    HE1000se is $3500. I was interested in it before I saw the price.

     
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    HE-1000 was 3k and wasn't using neodymium? ROFL
    Wait till Fang discovers Permendur, which has 2.4 tesla, much stronger than N52 neodymium (1.6 tesla, and is the highest possible grade, which I'm sure Hifiman doesn't use as they always use the cheapest possible, so maybe not even approaching 1 tesla).
     
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    WTF is Hifiman thinking lately? Shangrila, Shangrila Jr., Susvara, HE1000SE, HE1000V2, HE1000V1, HE6SE, HEXV2, HEX V1... So much overpriced sh*t in just three years. Wish the times of HE500/HE6 were back.
     
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    Newbie Head-fiers, Rafe Arnott and moist living, 2 hours of gym per day three times per week and complex chinese politcal matters.
     
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    On the flip side that is business, and the market tolerated it. Smart from a certain point of view.

    The HEXV2 was not worth the $1300 it cost, but I would rate at as worth $800ish. It's actually a very good HP with a lot going for it, because it still gets much use.

    But audiophilia has always been this way. An immense increase in price for minor tweaks, or a better looking package. Hifiman is not the first, or the last, company to jump into the deeper end of the water when it comes to pricing.

    p.s. same in the high end auto industry... Porsche, Ferrari, Lambo, all the same. 1800+$ for chrome tail pipe option. The car goes no faster, but it looks cool

    p.s.s and it's the same when building a computer. You can get a CPU, RAM, GPU from last year that is 97% performance, for half or a third the price, or you can get the latest thing the inverse, and that additional 3%. Same old stuff.
     
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    What is missing from the headphone world is market segregation: the ability to price goods at the willingness-to-pay of different consumer cohorts. This is the idea behind coupons: if someone is willing to spend 15 minutes searching for and clipping coupons, they are probably more price sensitive. Thus, the equilibrium price that maximies profit for the coupon-clipping cohort is lower and they receive a discount accordingly.

    In the headphone world, offering a once-per-year 20% discount to college students with proof of ID would probably yield something similar: more sales to a sector that wouldn’t buy at the full market price (and thus more profits); without cutting into the mainstream sales very much. Of course, there’s the ptroblem of kids turning around and doing re-sale, but as long as that is smll, the gain is still a net positive for retailers
     
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    Having seen various tear-downs of their stuff, and being amazed at how cheap/flimsy feeling/looking the original HE-1000 was, I'd just assumed that, under the chicken-wire and bits of off-cut "wood", that they were probably going to start using a couple of these:

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    Though, to be fair, while not necessarily my preferred delivery, I did think they sounded pretty good.
     
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    @Torq I've thought they were using one of those rubber magnets for fridges with Fang's face on it...too expensive I guess :D
     
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    Yea, the HEX V2 build "quality" is also pure junk. Certainly not what I'd expect for the price. Fortunately they are enjoyable to listen too. I guess HiFiMan was promoting them as an out and about headphone (being very efficient, an amp is not necessary), but who would do that? They'd fall apart.
     
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    HEKv2 are probably not different.
    They are not falling apart, I love how they sound, and between HD800S and HEKv2 I feel like I have everything covered but..
    Sometimes when I have to look at their "quality" it frightens me. I had to replace pads, it is not hat the "old" were old but the right pad just fell apart. It is put together with some shitty glue, it is a crap that does not have right to exist on any $3k headphones, or $150 headphones for that matter.
    I ordered new pads, $90 with shipping and spent 2 hours trying to attach one the pads, it was really ugly because I Was so afraid that I could damage the driver. The plastic ovals on the replacement pads do not match exactly the shape of the drivers.
    I got a pair of unused HEKv1 pads for free and they are better made, are more comfortable than HEKv2 pads. I am using those for now. They sound a touch less dynamic but I cannot really pinpoint the difference.

    Scary shit altogether.

    On the other hand I had HD500 which was old when I bought it but looked great and solid, and people still trade some pretty ancient HE6. Weird company.

    Are there any other, non Hifiman, pads that could be used with HEKv2? I haven't found any.
     
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  17. Darren G

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    Sennheiser knows how to build long lasting products. I do give HiFiMan a break though as it wasn't that long ago they were newish to the game, and can't fault them for making some good inroads into the world of decent sounding HPs, but yea, build quality... they have a long way to go before they are a Sennheiser.
     
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    The Hifiman Ananda rectifies a lot of the build issues of the hexv2. When you pick it up it feels like a solid piece of metal and doesn't slide around all willy nilly like the hexv2. But the pads are the same and it has slightly less bass so, trade-offs.
     
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    anyone was able to try the hekse how does it stack up to the hekv2?
     
  20. Maxx134

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    Sorry I couldn't resist lol.
    Had a heart attack when that happened, but you basically have to have it in a bag for that to happen...
     
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