Jude E-peens Tyll and Gaslights Us with Alternative Facts

There's no updated measurements for the Tyll reviewed ZMF headphones. There seems to be a direct correlation to sponsorship revenue & "rescue" measurements. I doubt Zach has the budget to fly someone to Singapore for a schillfest tour.

 

I like how Jude is using that Utopia incident as a reason to utterly discredit Tyll. If Tyll is not matching the hype, he must have gotten a lemon!

 

I don't think Tyll and Marv's setups take into account the human body, down to just above the naughty bits.

 

looks like something out of cronenberg

 

The positioning of the headphone on the rig can make a significant difference---that's why I measure in 5 places. But I always position the headphones using a 30Hz square wave and can see (don't ask, the answer would be long, complex, and I'd have to show you a video of what happens---there's a lot of feel and experience that goes into it) what's going on. I always try to optimize the response at each position for both bass response and high frequency response. I do try to produce the most representative plots given what I see as the headphone's performance on the head. Sometimes it's favorable and sometimes not, but I do try to make it representative. I will often take the cans of the head and listen for what I'm seeing on the scope as a reality check.

Here's my response to Jude's post: https://www.innerfidelity.com/content/head-fi-contradicts-innerfidelity-sony-mdr-z1r-measurements

 

It will be interesting to see if Jude takes you up on your offer, @Tyll Hertsens . "Let's trade headphones and re-measure." would clear things up. I don't know that Jude would want this cleared up, though.

 

I put all of my faith and manhood behind CUNT.

 

I think the fact that Jude decided to post it on HF front page instead of contacting Tyll directly (to exchange headphones and conduct more measurements) tells the whole story. Just shaking my head right now…

 

To be fair Jude does seem to have a less noisy mic setup or one with lower distortion, or at least uses software that better eliminates noise from the picture. The THD results in the midrange are generally much much lower and probably much closer to the real limit of the phones. The difference in bass distortion is probably caused by slightly different levels and a different dummy head. I got lower bass distortion on my head than on my coupler, so could be that two different dummy heads stress the driver differently.
It's just incredibly annoying that his THD plots go down to 0.000001% when really the noise limits them much higher than that. Shows how little he really knows about measurements. The scale also isn't the same for all his measurements.

I doubt it. The 3kHz peak looks like it didn't move. I think it's probably the dummy head, compensation and positioning.

For reference:
Jude Z1R: https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/t...e-from-ifa-2016.818846/page-691#post-13547603
Jude Utopia/Elear: https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/f...-preview-with-measurements-head-fi-tv.811270/
Jude Ether (C) Flow: https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/m...-inspired-by-electrostatic-headphones.814156/

Tyll Z1R: https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/SonyMDRZ1Rsn3922.pdf
Tyll Utopia: https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/AllFocalUtopiaMeasurements.pdf
Tyll Elear: https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/FocalElear.pdf
Tyll Ether Flow: https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/MrSpeakersEtherFlow.pdf
Tyll Ether C Flow: https://www.innerfidelity.com/images/MrSpeakersEtherFlowC.pdf

The Utopia, Elear and Ether Flow all have a massive 15db 9kHz dip on his coupler. The Z1R doesn't. There's really nothing else that needs to be said.

 

Because he's realized that measurements are a powerful tool in undermining (or reinforcing) the status quo and wants to control the narrative by building the bestest possible rig, complete with 1200lb isolation booth effective down to 4Hz. This will give him the authority and "credibility" to hand-wave away independent measurements that show expensive FOTM flagships in an unflattering light.

That's why the e-peen.

 

To help understand an individuals measurement rig, it would be helpful to have a measurement taken from a reference headphone, like the HD650 or something of that sort.

I've posted a few of my measurements of various cans here with a HD650 measurement taken immediately after, to show how my rig behaves. Not my HD650 measurement from 3 months ago, one taken within minutes of the other headphone I was measuring.

 

@ultrabike

Here is the page being discussed in PNG format. I have to click it then click it again to enlarge to full size. I'm using Chrome.

Here is a link to "Next Generation Headphone Testing" that Jude references.

 

Oh boi, well I commented on the HF thread, questioning why Jude choose to discredit literally EVERYONE who measured a peak in the MDR Z1R by calling Tyll's measurements "inconsistent" [because all of them have that peak in common] and he didn't like that got my FIRST Multi Quote'd LINE BY LINE defense response. He really tore into me

I also echo'd some of the thoughts I found here as well, I'm excited to see that Tyll and Jude will collaborate, but I agree that Jude should have reached out to Tyll FIRST to collaborate and then make a nice big Head Fi post with the results of their collaboration... I'm sure that post will earn me even more brownie points

 

my post showing sbaf measurements but not stating the forum name isn't being approved by the mods...

 

Judegate? This has got to be like Judegate Part XII or something..

So Jude has measurements that are contradictory to almost every single set of measurements for this phone that can be found and he uses this to call out Tyll in particular. How peculiar. What will Jude do when he is proven wrong?

1. Pretend that he's not wrong and never admit it.

2. Delete the entire thread.

3. Admit he was wrong and apologize to Tyll.

If there was a way to walk it back I'm sure he would but I think he has passed the point of no return on that.