Judegate (formerly: STOLEN ITEMS ALERT)

Discussion in 'Tales from the Bully Pulpit' started by purr1n, Mar 20, 2016.

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  1. Altrunox

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    If I wasn't in this hobby long enough, I would say you're all trolling ... sadly it's not the case. The deeper you guys go, the dirtier it gets.

    @No_One411 , good luck finding a new job :bow:
     
  2. jexby

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    Casey will forever have my support for this move, and also explains why I wore the same pyrate skull Tshirt to both days of RMAF 2015.
    Although my home made tshirt for RMAF 2016 might say:
    Jude is a (small) cock sucker.
     
  3. No_One411

    No_One411 Fired by Jude

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    Er, I promised Fang I would keep a cool head about this...

    Also, HFM is not my only job!
     
  4. keanex

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    Just realized no_one is Jeff...

    Wait, so my favorite HFM booth babe is gone?

    damn. I could do without the redhead, but this is just too much.
     
  6. jexby

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    You have dude, more than is expected.

    Yet Fang should be aware that we do not approve of strong arm tactics by his Popeness.
     
  7. AMW1011

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    We definitely shouldn't approve of Jude's actions, but emailing Fang isn't damaging to Jude. If you email Fang, remember that the position he is in is as bad or worse than No One's. You want this to change? Help people like Fang get out from under Head-fi.
     
  8. No_One411

    No_One411 Fired by Jude

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    Summer moved to Auralic.

    Briana is busy with her day job as a court reporter. I missed having her around this year at CanJam!
     
  9. ultrabike

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    I did not expect much for Jude. But he reached new lows.

    Forcing people out of their jobs they way he did is IMO fairly unethical. You see this kinds of things happening often unfortunately.

    As far as the veracity of these claims, I believe them fully. As a newbie I would of course hold my reservations. But this is not the case.

    As far as Fang, if I was him I would do all I could to get make my business independent of Jude. I definitively wouldn't want to depend on a guy like that.
     
  10. SoupRKnowva

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    Considering everyone on SBAF already knows about the shadiness of his holiness, I don't really know what else can happen, you can't talk about it on HF.

    Other than getting someone like Tyll to write about it, exposing it on a mass scale won't ever happen.

    We can only hope more people see through his bullshit
     
  11. jexby

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    Truth.
    Must devise a better plan of counter intelligence which cuts out the middle-Hype-Fi-Man.
     
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    There needs to be other communities. Reddit is becoming a larger and larger force for getting new people into the hobby. Most of the good people "retire" to SBAF it seems as well. Grow those communities and maybe another.
     
  13. jexby

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    Bull.
    Twitter is there with hashtags and userID mentions, and replies to HeadFi YouTube channel postings are possible.
    Comment sections are often open on audiophile articles and other forums are non censored.
     
  14. purr1n

    purr1n Desire for betterer is endless.

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    Let's just move on. At the end of the day, let's not even concern ourselves with Jude. It's not worth it and a waste of energy. Let's do what we do best.
    1. Make honest and fair assessments of gear.
    2. Continue providing objective measurements to supplement subjective assessments.
    3. Provide direct experience of gear through meets and loaner programs.
    4. Maintain and strengthen our community (which is very real).
    I am super proud to call many of you as my friends or at the very least close acquaintances. Sorry for today's outbursts, but I think I needed to say a lot of these things.

    I now retire to my temple of vinyl.
     
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    I definitely understand how a newbie can be unsure about believing all of this, especially one that's never experienced any trouble of the HF personally. I fall into that category myself. But there are so many different accounts, not just from the SBAF/Changstar crowd but from others as well. My personal opinion is that if there's this much smoke going, there must be a fire somewhere.

    However, I think Marv is right that the best approach to all of this is to shake it all of and do your own thing. If enough people do that, HF and Jude will become irrelevant.
     
  16. purr1n

    purr1n Desire for betterer is endless.

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    If you haven't experienced any trouble, I would advise not to pay attention to any of this and not to get involved. Let's move on. I'm sick of this.
     
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    mtoc SBAF's Resident Shit-Stirrer

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    Maybe this's a mistake, the "thief" wrongly picked up the cans and after that he suddenly wanted to stay away from the internet and he never open his bag which contained a HEX but the reason he doesn't wanna open it is there's a mobilephone in it and all he wants is avoiding these kind of net-surfers. Why not simply stole a HEK?
     
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  18. zerodeefex

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    I spent a few hours with some knowledgeable counsel today and I mentioned some of what happened here. I'm unsure of the entity that books revenue from HF, but I'm guessing Jude is attached to whatever LLC collects all the advertising, sponsorship, and show income. Interestingly, there were a couple of takeaways:
    1. Due to his overwhelming impact on some vendors' income (for some companies, HF is directly or indirectly responsible for 1/3 of sales), Jude's request is EXTREMELY inappropriate.

      The appropriate request would have been to request the employee not work with Jude/HF anymore. Since the threat was termination of a business partnership which would effectively immediately cut a vendor off from a major avenue to sales resulting in SUBSTANTIAL material impact on that vendor's revenue, there is definitely grounds for a lawsuit here. If a company was materially impacted by refusing such an inappropriate request, the vendor could sue for unrealized income over the course of several years with additional compensatory damages for projected loss of growth over time. In some cases this is many, many millions of dollars.

    2. In California, despite being an at-will state with regard to employment, an employee who is terminated in a situation such as this would not only have an avenue to seek compensatory damages from an employer, but a strong case for taking Jude to civil court as well. This would include both unrealized income, impact to income potential over time, and additional compensatory damages for personal mental anguish due to the extreme stress of the situation.
    I think it's probably good that this wasn't someone's primary form of income. Still, it's interesting someone would abuse his or her huge amount of power in an industry like this over something so incredibly petty and risk such potentially large lawsuits.
     
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  19. purr1n

    purr1n Desire for betterer is endless.

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    Well, I think @No_One411 honestly wants bygones to be bygones. It's sad because he worked his ass off at the HFM booth at CanJam (the HFM booth babes we knew from before weren't around for this); and after the event, he got fired for his hard work because Jude didn't approve of who he was associating with. What's even more sad is our misfortune (the stolen items) was used as a reason for HFM to terminate him.

    I'm past the point of being angry. I'm just sad. I pity any person who would resort to such little man tactics. My recommendation is for @No_One411 to be the bigger man, to just let this thing go instead of considering litigation. In the end karma is a bitch, and justice will be served. I've lived long enough to see this.
     
  20. zerodeefex

    zerodeefex SBAF's Imelda Marcos

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    You know Jeff will always be the bigger man. He's such a kind hearted guy. Jude has such a short temper and he'll always be small hearted and petty.
     
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