Life after Yggdrasil: Watering the Ash

Discussion in 'Digital: DACs, USB converters, decrapifiers' started by Torq, Mar 1, 2017.

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  1. cizx

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    This should go well.

    Let me try to give you some advice. Your opinions, regardless of how they diverge from the typical ones here, are valid. Your approach to sharing your opinions, though, is going to keep people from considering your point of view.

    What is your goal here? Is it to present an alternative view, or is it to burn down the house because you've had it with people who don't think like you do?

    If it's the former, relax your tone and present your opinion is as humble and moderate a tone as someone who's trying to fit in with a new group of people in a closed, club-like environment would.

    If it's the latter, you're wasting your time. I assure you, all that will happen is everything you say will be extracted from this thread and put on public display in the "how to win friends" forum as an object of amusement and warning to others like you. Then you'll be banned.

    Maybe you're just trying to weather the quarantine by stirring up some shit. If so, I respect that, but there are better places to do that kind of thing, like reddit.com or the Israeli version of a Popeye's chicken sandwich line.

    In any case, you're currently a pebble in a sock.
     
  2. insidious meme

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    Even funnier is @Torq doesn't even post here anymore.
     
  3. Truth above all

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    I meant the hating in general, cause this post is going to draw a lot of fire.

    That’s very weird, I’ve heard the lampizator golden gate at a show once, but room acoustics wasn’t very good, although they have good reputation.

    must say never heard the total dac.

    I’m not necessarily saying that what’s cheap sounds bad, god knows that one of my most melting speakers is a pair of quad 57 and and an old tube amp... but if I’ll put a very revealing dac to the mix I want here it the quad is pretty limited at high frequency’s

    there’s always synergy in play and the weakest link but the OP hear have so much gear it want be possible to miss the sound of a high end dac.
     
  4. Truth above all

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    I’ll take your words into consideration and write a proper introduction I didn't know it’s possible missed it at sign up stage , and I’ve agreed to write my review on the Yggdrasil vs linn
    I’ll do so in the upcoming days.

    as for the way I wrote my first post I strongly feels it’s the way it should of been written,
    And if ull read all the fallowing posts and replays I wrote here and still feel like I should of wrote it otherwise than will agree to disagree.

    you can’t insult my intelligence with such a life after Yggdrasil post which is a super biased post, where the Yggdrasil 90% of the times comes on top no matter what is up against, and the only dac that vanquished him is a dac that most can’t afford at current pricing, how convenient.

    I’ll take your words after advisement,
    Please respond to what I wrote like don’t you agree with the above , don’t you find the life after Yggdrasil post biased or not logical.?
     
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    Wow!!! I get the whole I'm not a native English speaker thing, but this post is actually incomprehensible. Perhaps you know someone who can actually understand written English -- try having them read your posts before you click 'Post Reply'.

    Worse yet, even guessing at what you're trying to say, you're still not actually saying anything:

    Useless. Really useless!

    I'm done feeding the troll.
     
  6. neomax

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    whats hilarious is torq doesnt even own a yggdrasil anymore. its not even in his top 5 favorite dacs.
     
  7. Truth above all

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    thank you I respect that and I will try a different approach here, and I’m not on any high horse I’ve put all my money into this passion I’m not rich I just made other choices in life most of my money went into audio gear and one the day the bank is going to catch up with me but f**k it we only live once.

    I meant no disrespect I just meant that having the Yggdrasil and the linn at the same place at the same time is not very common.
     
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    Of course the post is biased. All of this stuff is based on 'my ears/your ears, my chain/your chain'. It's impossible for me to hear what you hear, and vice versa. If that weren't true we'd all be listening to the same 5 pieces of hardware which we all agree are the 'best' in a given price range.

    But the point here is that the OP spend an inordinate amount of time creating a set of comparisons between many DACs and one of the favorite DACs enjoyed by a large number of participants in this forum. If you read through this whole thread, you'll see that there are those who agree with him, and those who disagree. But they don't come into the forum, ignore the standard practices, and (in their first post) attack him as either dead or in the pay of someone.

    But the key point was your lack of any articulated basis for your opinion. It'll be interesting to read your comparison. Be sure to document the system configuration for your comparison.
     
  9. Truth above all

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    Your point is valid,

    But In some cases like comparing a Porsche 911 to let’s say a golf gti, no matter how biased I am towards the VW, there’s no competition here.
     
  10. Senorx12562

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    And the Golf will get you to the supermarket just as fast and in just as much comfort as a 911. And much more cost-effectively. But I am not sure that is relevant to this discussion.
     
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    Ah, but you see, even though they perform the same function, the Linn is SO MUCH better than the Yggdrasil that comparing them is like comparing a Porsche and a VW Golf.

    Sarcasm much? ;)
     
  12. purr1n

    purr1n Desire for betterer is endless.

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    Yes. Perhaps it does seem strange that the poster @Torq puts the Yggdrasil on top. But that is like his opinion, man; and opinions are like assholes, everyone has one. Regardless we do have protocols and customs here:
    1. New members are required to introduce themselves in the appropriate thread. Please read and digest the necessary posts for newcomers in the "Don't be a Dotard" links at the top of the page.
    2. First post being a response to something they disagree with is frowned upon, considered poor manners, and grounds for ban.
    3. Your handle Truth Above All gives me pause. It's usually a sign that you are full of yourself. It there is anything I am certain of, it's that audio truths are very much personal.
     
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    This is funny. I own a fairly up to date Linn system (Klimax DSM and 350 integrated speakers with Katalyst DACs) as well as an Yggdrasil A2, which is the oldest piece of audio gear I own (upgraded twice). It has survived several other DACs (including some more expensive ones), many amplification and transducer changes, even the arrival of the Linn system. It's what I choose to listen closely (with EC Aficionado or ecp DSHA-3F amp and ZMF Verité headphones) to the many new modern jazz recordings I get every month. Even if there's a better separate DAC out there, or several, I can't really be bothered to try them. Which I would if I felt that the Yggdrasil fell short significantly in the constant comparison with the Linn system one room over.
     
  14. Truth above all

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    Your right I do find it funny.
     
  15. rlow

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    @Truth above all a small tip for using SBAF. This type of a post is considered noise. It will get dislikes, and frequent noise will get you banned. I cant fully tell if it’s sarcastic or not (seems sarcastic), but if your reply is legit, provide more meaningful info, or a meaningful question, otherwise refrain from posting.

    If you’re being sarcastic, you’re doing that to one of the nicest, most genuine and intelligent Friends around.
     
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  16. Truth above all

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    I have to be honest here and say,
    I do appreciate this forum, and you guys backing each other’s back, it’s really heart warming to see that, I’m sorry that this is how I started my way here and the way I’m probably portrayed.
    My sincere apologies I’m starting to understand by some of the answers I’ve got here, that I’ve been wrong about the way I was Conducting myself.

    I’m not being sarcastic.

    I’m out and will not post here again I don’t feel it can be credible anymore.


    I’m done being the “troll”.

    manager's please delete this account.

    Thank you

    And I bid you all fair well .
     
  17. crenca

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    I am surpised this as gone on this long. The only thing you have offered is the Old Farts Audiophile Club line of price = performance and the tired car analogy. Yet, as everyone knows, a Corvette (and these days, Mustang's & Camaros) costing 1/2 as much as a 911, and even less than most other comparisons is equal to the performance, only lacking the glitzy interior....have you tried MQA lately :confused:
     
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    Congratulations on finally realizing this truth above all.
     
  19. Truth above all

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    well 1/2 is not a 1/10.
    And my compression wasn’t between half the price, nor The OP in this case.
    I have tried MQA.
    In some cases price is more than just a number.
    I’m also surprised by this forum,
    And In a good way.
    Happy weekend.
     
  20. rlow

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    This has peaked my curiosity. Where does he mention is top DACs now?
     

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