Life after Yggdrasil: Watering the Ash

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  1. purr1n

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    Either XLR-SE line-level transformers or a preamp that will take BAL inputs.
     
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    Would you guys say the Gungnir Multibit is a baby version of the Yggdrasil A2 but at a much lower price?
     
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    Just get a bf2
     
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    Would the normal version be fine or is it recommended to go multibit?
     
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    The current multibit with Unison is the overwhelming favorite here at SBAF
     
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    I will probably get the multibit but unison no point as I'll be using optical input.
     
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    There's a non-multibit Bifrost 2? Last I checked the only model you can get off Schiit now is the updated version that comes with the new multibit architecture and Unison USB straight out of the box.

    EDIT: you do get a choice of silver or black, though.
     
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    Bifrost 2 is inherently multi-bit and unison-ed. Make sure if you're looking at "2".
     
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    Sorry I read it wrong. The BF2 comes with everything while the BF has module upgrades
     
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    Less organic tone, neutral, even cool in the midbass, but just as much slam. Slightly less resolving, slightly less expansive stage. Sweeter and richer upper mids vs. sweeter low mids and organic lows on Yggdrasil. Depending upon system, I may prefer Gungnir Multibit A2 over Yggdrasil. If you are running with SE outputs, Bifrost 2 would be preferred. Bifrost's semi-vintage R2R sound generally easier to match with most systems - much less finicky than either Gungnir or Yggdrasil which takes more effort to set up.
     
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    Honestly, having a good USB input is probably a good idea, even if it's not your usual input. I was once planning to take my gear to a meet, and realized at the last minute that I'd have to use a laptop as a source instead of my desktop (since I'm obviously not lugging a desktop in a huge ATX case to a meet), so I wouldn't have my desktop's coax out, and my ancient Bifrost multibit actually doesn't have a USB input at all. I was scrambling to see if someone else had a spare DAC or Eitr I could use. (Ended up being sick the day of the meet so it was all for nought in the end.) But, point being, you might unexpectedly find yourself in a situation where USB compatibility is important, so it's a nice thing to have around even if you're not regularly using it.
     
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    USB is much more convenient as any device can use it whereas optical can be limited to certain devices.

    Only reason i avoid USB is that my setup gets electrical noise through the cable no matter what cable i use. Most likely due to the power cables right next to it whereas optical gets no electrical interference.
     
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    Question about the Yggdrasil warm up.. is the "keep it on for a month" apply to only the v1? I got mine last week, but have been holding off giving it a good workout till it has warmed up enough.
    (i really hope something changed vs v1 as i now live in fear of moving/shutting it off. I have 3 different speaker setups that i'd love to try my new schiit with all of them. The wife is OK with moving the gear, but not the speakers. :) )
     
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    Keep on a month seem to apply more to A2. But if it sounds good already, don't worry about it.
     
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    Thanks sir. :)
    hrmm.. maybe i'll get a UPS or something allowing me not to stress it.
    The plus side is i'm already enjoying it after a week - so i have something to look forward too.
     
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    My Yggdrasil didn’t sound good until after a month and I bought it used.
    Thought the prior owners break-in would have helped. Apparently it is all about the warmup.
    I’m running single ended and have some line transformers I will try running from my single ended preamp at some point. I have a Modi Multibit and an older Bifrost non multibit. I like the bump in the mids the Modi Multibit has. Wondering if I would be better off getting a new Bifrost Multibit in my setup. Schiit came out with the Bifrost Multibit 2 just when I purchased the Yggdrasil.
    Wish I had a remote to switch inputs on Yggdrasil like Bifrost Multibit has but don’t want to give up that last few percent of plankton.
     
  18. Cakecake

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    I noticed with Yggdrasil the upright bass doesn't have much impact as my turntable. Is this weakness of the Yggdrasil or dac in general?
     
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    RE: warm-up
    What do we think the science is behind needing a warm up of a month (from a power up)?
    I can't get my head around what would require that every time. A break in period, yes, i get. Hitting an temp of all components makes sense too - but that wouldn't take a month (let alone days.)
    I don't doubt that something is happening. It is pretty universal that people say the yggd sounds much better after it has been on (post a power up) after a very long re-warm up.

    Also, is this effect reset on a power loss or is a cool down? ie, well a fast power loss reset the timer?

    But i'm already really enjoying it. It was a big jump up from my old dacs (crappy? Oppo HA-1 / Audiolab M-DAC/ Fostex HP-A8 / Dragonfly Red)
    also my desktop speakers are much better too. From PSB Imagine mini to Elac BS403.
     
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    For me, a brief power down for both YggyB and previous YggyA doesn’t require any burn in. In fact, Moffat has commented that Yggdrasil, like most digital, likes to be “burped” occasionally. So other than a minute shutdown weekly or so, Yggdrasil, uDO (Dante interface), and Mac Mini server are on or asleep 24/7.
     

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