Lyr 3 Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Headphone Amplifiers and Combo (DAC/Amp) Units' started by neogeosnk, Mar 20, 2018.

  1. Mdkaler

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    I am very excited about this too. But I am also ready to be less impressed than anticipated.

    Saga + '40s JAN Sylvania + Jotunheim PR leaves little to be desired.
    This combo has great microdynamics, and the treble is very addicting. I can also use the Jot alone when I feel like listening to pop/metal etc.

    I really wonder if Lyr 3 is more "open" than the above combo. I really hope it is better, so I can have 1 box instead of 2. Transporting the Sagaheim isn't as easy as it seems.
     
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    THIS. People, this!

    Lyr 3 only has one power switch, so it is safe to say no to this question.
    But this is a really good point. Looks like the multibit module is not for me. Sometimes I leave the Modi Multibit on and power down the Jot. Cold Jot is tolerable, but not cold Modi Multibit.
     
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    So as a total tube newb, what are the appreciable differences between the Russian 6N8S (NOS) and Tung-Sol 6SN7 (New) options? I'd be using with HD6x0 and LCD2C.
     
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    I ordered mine with the new production Tung-Sols, I've used them in other gear and they're good.
     
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    Based on what you've heard, would you speculate that this dichotomy holds true for planars in general, or is this more a statement of the synergy between Rag and PM-3 (and HE-6 for power delivery purposes)? For example, which amp would you prefer with, say, an LCD-2 or HE-500?

    Any thoughts on how this would compare to Black Widow (for planars)?
     
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    I hate to shoot Schiit in the foot with this, but let's break things down...

    Lyr 3 + Russian nos tube = normal price
    Lyr 3 + Tung-Sol new tube = add $25

    Get the Russian 6N8S (NOS) tube, and order the Tung-Sol 6SN7 separately. It's pretty much the same price, and you get 2 tubes you can roll right off the bat.
     
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    I've been waiting for this since Marvy/purr1n , not sure what's up with that but.., hinted at it a while ago.

    Im trying to limit boxes somewhat because we only have so many plugs we can use. Regardless, Im currently running a Magni 3 and a Modi Multibit, I've held off on a Eitr to see what was announced and if I really needed one.

    So options are get the Lyr3 and an eitr...stop

    Find a nice used gen 5 Bifrost Multibit, get a lyr 3 sell everything else. So boxes now.

    Is a Lyr3 with a Bifrost Multibit worth it or would just sticking with the Modi Multibit/Eitr Lyr 3 setup be fine.

    Ill be running AKG K7xxs and Im looking for a nice pair of 650s when I get the extra cash. Maybe something a bit more expensive down the road a ways, not sure what yet. Atticus or Eikon would be nice but probably not in the budget...maybe not ever.
     
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    Or my preference, anodize. However, DIY would remove the labels and logos.
     
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    Have you or anyone else heard Lyr 3 with LISST? I mostly use tube amps (Valhalla 2 and EC ZDT Jr on order running off of Eitr/Modi Multibit), but always like to keep a good solid state around for times when I don't want to wait for tube warm up, want to use planars (LCD2C), or just want a little less laid back and more energetic mood. Right now I have Magni 3 for that and was looking at SS upgrades like Jot, THX AAA, LC, etc. I've always been interested in trying hybrid tubes and the idea of Lyr 3 adding that tube option as well as also being turned into SS with LISST (with just one easy tube swap) is really intriguing. I'm curious how Lyr 3 with LISST would stack up against Jot and THX AAA, and if using LISST would bring that extra zip and crispiness?
     
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    At least for us international customers, that single extra tube makes $20 difference in shipping fee.o_O
     
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    Easy fix - Move to the US.

    Or, order it as a separate item in your Lyr 3 order, and they shouldn't charge you anything extra for shipping.
     
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    Our you could buy the TS in iurop. Even in horribleah Italy I can get one for 23 eurobux.
     
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    "Screenshot of the day"

    I bet you guys all are gazing at this screen.. :oops:

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    Potential spider plot?

    ZDT Jr
    Valhalla 2
    Jot
    Lyr3
    CHT
     
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    RCA grey glass old stock can be found for dirt cheap. They might have the sound that you are looking for.
     
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    Maybe not because there are so time consuming to do and requires that I have all amps handy. I will take a stab, but leave the MCHT out because evidently the pre-production version that I had does not sound like the production version:

    Bass Quality (slam, articulation, clarity, grip)
    Jot (balanced)
    Lyr 3
    Valhalla 2
    <gap>
    ZDT Jr

    Microdynamics (opposite of flat and boring)
    ZDT Jr
    Lyr 3 = Valhalla 2
    Jot

    Microdetail
    Too close to call

    Clarity (mids on up)
    Lyr 3
    Jot
    ZDT Jr
    Valhalla 2

    Attack / speed / transients (fast to med)
    Jot
    Lyr 3 = Valhalla 2
    ZDT Jr. (not slow by any means)

    Treble harmonics / overtones / timbre
    ZDT Jr.
    Lyr 3
    Jot
    Valhalla 2 (by no means bad)
     
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    PM-3 actually needs a lot of power to come alive. So does HE-500. LCD-2 and HE-560 don't seem to require this, so I'd pair the latter two with Lyr 3.

    I do not like planars from the BW.
     
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    Are you referring to the Oppo PM-3?

    @purr1n , would your preference for Ragnarok over Lyr 3 for some planars also apply to the PMx2?

    I would also love to hear @Audio Zenith ’s thoughts on the Lyr 3. Have you had a chance to hear this amp yet? Do you feel the PMx2 is neutral enough from this amp? Is there a specific tube you would recommend for it to achieve optimal synergy with the PMx2?
     
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    Meant PM-2.
     
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