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Discussion in 'Headphone Amplifiers and Combo (DAC/Amp) Units' started by Riotvan, Oct 30, 2017.

  1. Riotvan

    Riotvan Got lost for three weeks at Delft City Hall

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    sorrodje Carla Bruni's other lover - Friend

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    Interesting but I wonder how much this New DAC/DSP/Amp will cost and how it could compete against a tool like a RME ADI pro with his parametric EQ.

    Jan Meier New toy offers specific DSPs for speakers though. I'm not into speakers yet so I don't know how useful are these features.
     
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    Riotvan Got lost for three weeks at Delft City Hall

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    Yeah maybe someone can ask him what his intended price point will be.

    Those speaker settings might be handy but i guess he only has nearfield in mind since i'm not seeing anything about a remote.
     
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    Looks quite interesting. Meier's amp was my favorite until I met schiit :D
    If that new dac-amp is reasonably priced, it could be a good alternative to too pricy (imo) phonitor. I still like meier's crossfeeder a lot.

    Having no analog inputs is a clear minus though, I don't think the dac part compete against good r2r products.
     
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    Well at least he is using Wolfson and not the Sabre stuff. Let's hope we can get some ears on this...
     
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    Looking forward to your impressions and thanks for taking the time to check it out for the rest of us.
     
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    Cspirou They call me Sparky

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    No analog inputs and only 4-pin XLR output? He's really trying to limit his audience.

    Still very curious to listen to this. I'd like to know what his crossfeed is like. It also has digital out if you still want to use your own DAC after all that DSP processing.
     
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    While he didn't necessarily create it, I think it would be reasonably safe to say that Jan Meier can be considered one of the early pioneers of headphone crossfeed.
     
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    Cspirou They call me Sparky

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    Maybe they could scale this down and make a standalone DSP crossfeed box that would work with any DAC. Sort of like the upcoming Schiit Gadget. In fact Schiit should probably just integrate crossfeed into the Gadget, crossfeed is far more tangible then retuning middle C.
     
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    Dear headfellows,

    the administrators of SBAF were so nice to add me to the member list, just so I can respond to your questions.

    Over the last few weeks, various little changes have been made to the design, functionality, and the circuitry of the new amp/DAC. An updated description can be found on my website.

    As for your questions:

    Prices are not know yet. We will work with a subscription list and the more people order, the lower the prices will be.

    Quite a few people asked for analog inputs. So it will be!! :)

    A standalone DSP-box? Yes, I have thought about that. Maybe, who knows. But only one project after the other.....

    I do produce a SOUL-newsletter at regular intervals. If interested, just send me a email.

    Cheers

    Jan
     
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    Will this have AES inputs? A lot of digital sources sound best with AES. If you make an AES input then people can use things like Lynx AES16 or Rednet 3.

    What kind of power are you going for from the headphone outputs? how many mW into what resistance?

    This looks interesting and like it will compete with the RME ADI-2 Pro.
     
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    Dear friends,


    admittedly I have been very quiet over the last half a year. I simply didn't want to say and to promise too much before development and design of the SOUL have been finished.


    However, now the situation is very different and we're not far from production. If interested, please check my website. I can't give too many details over here, since I'm a commercial member of the trade. However, I will do my best to answer any of your questions.


    > Will this have AES inputs?


    I'm very sorry, but this amp/DAC is intended for consumer use and therefore focus is on "normal" S/PIDF inputs only.


    > A lot of digital sources sound best with AES.


    They shouldn't, if well designed!!


    > What kind of power are you going for from the headphone outputs?


    Maximum output current around 600 mA (depends on the voltage swing).


    Maximum output voltage 8V when using digital input (limited by the gain factor, not by the supply voltages). On request the gain factor (and thereby the output voltage) can be further increased. However, unless you're a headbanger and have some very inefficient headphones that normally is not need.


    > how many mW into what resistance?


    Moooooooooooooore than enough! :)


    > This looks interesting and like it will compete with the RME ADI-2 Pro.


    In some aspects the ADI-2 Pro has more options (filtering, resampling, ....). However, many of these are mainly of interest to professional users. The SOUL is more straightforward and is more easy to use. The settings can be seen at one glance and you don't need to read an extremely thick user-manual to understand all the options and to optimize performance.

    Of course I can't comment on the sound quality of the ADI-2 PRO, as I've never heard one, but technically the analog part of the SOUL is clearly more sophisticated.

    Please be noted that I have two prototypes of the SOUL that are shipped around to people for testing. If you like to be one of those, just drop me an E-Mail at [email protected] for the details.

    Cheers

    Jan
     
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