Nearfields for audiophile listening?

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  1. Madaboutaudio

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    Did I wake up in an insane asylum? People getting excited about yamaha ns10s?

    C'mon really , you do realize they were used to check mixes for car radio speakers, right?

    Several of the speakers in this thread are wannabe real monitors, start looking at Focal, Dynaudio, Genelec and the like, not guitar center crap.

    this is like saying a Schiit Modi and Magni is my "end game"..........not , it is entry level at best
     
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    The Genelec is too big.

    I had the A2 briefly many years ago and it didn't quite do anything for me back then, but granted I was also comparing vs some M-Audio AV40's at the time which I preferred (but which are also much larger, so that was unfair).
     
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    Yeah I was wondering about this, since Adam A77X is kinda the Analog brother to it. But honestly, can one even really hear the conversion? It does have a brickwall after 20kHz, but it also has the PWM amp thingies without additional D/A, also one could claim DSP EQ/crossover etc can be better than analog...

    Different spices for everyone. But if one can hear say the burrito effect of Schiit, then it's kind of a proof that the conversion doesn't mess it up. I haven't done any DAC comparisons with them yet, but I intend to..

    Really surprised that they don't have digital ins though! But it would make a lot of additional costs I guess. And the speakers would need to have some master/slave connections also, kind of hard to split a SPDIF signal for two speakers..

    Btw I was really interested in this, but kind of a leap of faith for 2800€ (the AMT version). Lots of German boards seem to rave about them.
    http://www.abacus-electronics.de/121-1-New+APC24-23C.html (more info in german...)
     
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    Anyone seen the Emotiva B1 or heard anything about it? Looks like it's coming out sometime this month. I tried the Airmotiv 4 a while back and liked what I heard. The B1 could potentially be good without internal electronics holding it back

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    I really want and need a pair of nearfields. There's just too many damn choices!! With a budget of $500 and looking for an hd650 kind of sound, what do you guys suggest? Source is Gungnir Multibit and using mjo2 as a pre.
     
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    You aren't going to get that kind of sound in a monitor. KRK might come close, try them out. But try the HS8. It's much more natural sounding. You could save up a bit more and buy something used for the 6-800 mark. Those would be 13-1500 monitors. But they're going to be much more accurate than the HD650.

    Wharfedale Diamond 10.1 and an amp might be more your speed.

    Thinking about it a bit more, perhaps some used 80s gear?
     
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    I wonder if those will have bi-amping options at the back.

    Also curious that they're releasing a passive soundbar. My first thought would be that should be active.
     
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    There's no bi-amp according to the pics, but there is bi-amping on the floorstanders model.
     
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    Testing some heavy hitters:
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    Wow... did you just go to the shop and say "gimme a pair each of your most expensive monitors"? I spy the Genelec on the right, Neumann on top and... Focal on bottom? Those are all 2k+ apiece.
     
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    Those looks like Genelec 8050's and Focals SM9's. Not sure about the Neumans. Would be nice to hear them all at the same time!
     
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    They're the KH 310.
     
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    I finally purchased the SC307s. Got a good deal from local shop for brand new ones. Hopefully no upgradatis in a while. :D Well maybe if used SC40x show up..
     
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    There's nothing in an AMT that changes the dispersion compared to a ribbon or a dynamic driver, unless it's narrower or shorter. Directivity is determined by diaphragm size and baffle/waveguide shape.

    Also, many of the AMTs used in home speakers (e.g. Goldenear) have extreme problems with dynamic non-linearity. That is to say, their response at higher SPL is markedly different than their response at lower levels. You can see the problems in Soundstage's measurement battery.
     
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    I think it's more of a design cost issue. At similar price points, the ribbon based speakers that I have listened to, all have very narrow(more vertical, less horizonal) rectangular shaped tweeters. While the AMT based speakers all had a slightly bigger and/or more square-ish shape tweeters.
     
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    Only amt I ever heard was a heil-tweeter and I didnt mind it and sounded little soft/dull. Cant really comment on dispersion characteristics since room wasn't ideal. Thing is, the prices lot of ribbons and even amt's go for you can get a good compression driver and horn. Have better/lower distortion and better and more controlled dispersion and higher power handling with less break up.
     
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    Pretty much... Nah, they were already set up like that.

    KH 310: Sounded most like a mixing tool from first impressions. A tad brighter than the other two. The room was what I'd call medium sized, and the bottom end definitely left something to be desired.

    Trio6 Be: Overall the most balanced of the three. But those are stupid money.

    8050: I like the tone of Genelecs. The bass is a little boomy on the 8" model. But I love when you can hear the rumble in the start of Infected Mushroom's - Heavyweight. Contemplating a purchase, but moving to a smaller apartment in november. Might get bass issues.

    Need to get my hands on the SC208 or SC307's. I've only tested the 7" model. To be continued...
     
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    The Genelec dipswitches are very effective so the smaller room should not be a problem. The slighly loose bass is also there on the 8040's.
     
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