New Shanling M0 - Tiny DAP for 109$

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  1. M3NTAL

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    This sounds like it might be defective. I've had some weird connection issues and it usually comes down to the USB cable needed reinserted. Also, from my experience - the M0 needs to be turned on in order to transfer files.
     
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    Plugged in with device off or on leads to the same issue. It can play files if I take my microSD card and drag and drop directly from the computer and then plug the card into the unit, but USB would be way easier for this.
     
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    Are we now talking about using USB connection for data transfer or USB DAC?

    When you connect M0 to computer, what shows up on its screen?

    In settings, what "USB mode" is set?
     
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    Data transfer. If I plug it in and then turn it on, it shows a battery charging.

    If I turn it on first and then plug it in, it'll show something about USB connection on the screen, but on Windows 10 and Windows 7 I'll get the error "Device Not Recognized" and be unable to locate the device in file explorer to put music onto it.

    It is set as USB mode, not as DAC mode.
     
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    Yes, you need to have M0 on turned on when connecting to computer.

    If M0 shows "USB connected" and icon of micro SD card, it recognized connection and should be all fine on side of M0.

    Can you go to device manager on your computer, find there the M0 (on my computer shows up as "Linux File-CD Gadget USB Device) and try to uninstall device and try to connect it again?

    Which firmware are you running?
     
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    @Bina any idea when the USA release will be for the UP2?
     
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    We hope to have them on international market during middle of July.
     
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    Does anyone know how the USB mode is implemented here? Is it through operating system or a USB controller directly to the DAC?

    Curiously, I am finding that the M0 actually sounds better when used in USB mode over WASAPI+a good player or with Linux, than it does playing the same file natively. Some issue with the FLAC playback or perhaps resource usage affecting something? Over USB it sounds like it has better imaging/soundstage, dynamics, layering.. Native playback sounds dry, flat and narrow in comparison.
     
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    After too long wait, we are finally releasing app for remote control of playback on M0.

    It comes alongside update V3.3, full firmware notes and download links on our website: http://en.shanling.com/article-M0-V33.html
     
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    Hi @Bina,

    question related to the sd card slot: shall the M0 have the same slot mechanism as for instance the M2s?
    Meaning you insert the card with a gentle "press" at the end. In case the card has to be pulled out, one has to press gently the card and hence it will pop out a bit (far enough that one can pull it out of the slot).

    The reason why I ask is, that my new M0 (today received) doesn`t have this kind of "mechanism" which left me a bit fiddling until I could pull out the card.
    Is this intended or a kind of issue? If the later is the case I will return it of course.

    btw..saw that FW 3.4 is also available.

    EDIT:
    Found the link to the Advanced User manual you`ve created.
    So seems it should have the same mechanism (the "click") as with my M2s..but it doesn`t.
    Haven´t read this whole thread hence I`m not sure if the following topic has already been mentioned:

    I used the sd card from the M2s, updated the music library and expected to see the artists in My Music => Artist but unfortunately not all of them are shown there. Instead an "Unknown User" entry is shown which lists albums from various artists.

    Same with Album where an "Unknown Album" entry is shown which includes only one song.

    A bit strange since with the M2s everything is shown as expected.

    Any hint what I can do here?
     
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    If you push in card and you get no resistance and then can't get it out, I would recommend to contact your seller for warranty.

    If you have problem with some files not showing up, please send them to me for check.

    Also, system in M2s and M0 are quite different. M2s was using third party soft, on M0 we are running our own system, so one can be showing issues that can't be replicated on other one.
     
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    Thanks for getting back to me @Bina, much appreciated.

    New M0 arrived today which has a proper SD slot mechanism.
    In addition to that I retagged the music files which seemed to solve the issue.

    :)
     
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    @Bina sorry for the thread necro but my cheap butt picked up an m0 on the used market several weeks back and I think the battery's not quite in peak form; it was on an older firmware revision when I got it, but I updated it to v3.6 after about a day and made sure to do a full charge cycle after.

    I see a few vendors selling spare ones on aliexpress etc, but even should I find a proper swap-in, I can't for the life of me find clear direction on how to safely take this apart.

    First instinct is hair dryer + thin guitar pick to lift the screen off from the microSD card side since it's already slightly raised on that end, but confirmation before I risk permanently borking this would be neat. Would also be great if you had advice on where I might be able to get properly-specced batteries for it, if that isn't too much trouble.
     
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    No stock at all it seems. Scoured Shenzhenaudio a few times by now but they still have listings up for items that are no longer available, so I ended up paying and getting refunded for something after being informed that I'd not be able to get the thing.

    Bit confusing; they could keep the pages up in an archive of legacy products for reference because it IS useful to have the info up without risking people buying stuff they don't have on hand

    EDIT: wow I somehow missed the disassembly instructions there. Thanks!
     
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    Yeah, I saw that it was out of stock, but at least the instructions were there. Not sure if the part number on the battery image helps any bit. Bina should be a better help for that. Keep us posted, I have two M0's that might need a battery in the future.
     
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    How bad is the battery? Mine has never lasted quite as long as I’d like it to.
     
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    I use mine primarily as a Bluetooth receiver (since I picked it up for much cheaper than an equivalentish-sounding dedicated Bluetooth receiver from FIIO) and streaming LDAC from my phone it lasts maybe 5.5 hours from a full charge, though that's just playing music at volume setting 22 or so on low gain.

    I'm thinking actually using the screen for more than sporadically checking battery levels might drain it faster.
     
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    I think the BT drains it pretty fast.
     
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    Definitely so compared to local file playback, but I feel like even allowing for LDAC being more of a hog than typical aptX or SBC it doesn't last quite as long as expected. still usable though!
     

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