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Discussion in 'Tales from the Bully Pulpit' started by purr1n, Nov 6, 2019.

  1. purr1n

    purr1n Finding his inner redneck

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    Please resist the urge to post. Lurk more and try to understand the culture here. New registrations have been closed for a record interval of time.

    My advice is to type out the post. And then sit on it to think if you want to press the post button. The forum will keep what you wrote for 24 hours.

    I want to make clear that SBAF does not care about or follow your YouTube reviews, HF social media drama, or how you cannot hear a difference between DACs or amps. Sorry, but SBAF does not revolve around your world. Do not be so full of yourself to think that it does. There are better sites for you do this, such as HF or the forums at headphones.com

    I really do want new blood. It's the only way that a forum does not turn stale. Yet at the same time, I have been disappointed at the garbage and low quality posts. Please don't take this as a "do not post". Rather take this as a post with authenticity and a certain humility. Many new members have been able to do so in the past, and some have become well respected senior members in a short amount of time.

    So please, treat SBAF as if it were a holy place, a strange but holy place with its own particularities. Otherwise, the Swiss Guards are going to feather and tar you before they throw you out of the gates.

    I've been itching to allow new member registrations, but every week I see shitposts which makes me change my mind. This behavior needs to stop and should stop considering how long registrations have been closed.

    P.S. We are gonna start banning people.
     
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  2. Deep Funk

    Deep Funk Deep thoughts - Friend

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    P.S. This is a weird place.
     
  3. Hands

    Hands Overzealous Auto Flusher - Measurbator

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    May I suggest you go ahead and open up registration to new members? Registration really has been closed too long. However don't permaban for the first act of idiocy, just give two weeks off with a reminder to read the rules. Those who really want to be a member of this community will learn from their mistake. Those who are incapable of change then get the bar stool over the head.
     
  5. purr1n

    purr1n Finding his inner redneck

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    I'm still waiting for one week. One single week where I don't have to hear drivel along the lines of "if you watch my YT videos", "Asian Monkey drama", "I can't hear a difference between DACs".

    To folks out there, please, there are sites like HF that would be more accepting. Go to Disneyland. This is Willy Wonka's Chocolate factory.

    In the meantime, people can still join via referrals.
     
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  6. purr1n

    purr1n Finding his inner redneck

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    I know I'd be hella careful and respectful to Willy Wonka before I pee'd or poop'd in his chocolate factory's toilets. I'd probably just hold it until the factory tour was over.
     
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    crazychile Eastern Iowa's Spiciest Pepper

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    I think I mentioned this before somewhere, but can the top page "Don't be a Dotard" banner and other stuff pertaining to newbs be in BOLD RED LETTERS so that it's easily seen? I think most people are well intentioned but get tunnel vision with a shiny new toy and then end up screwing the pooch.
     
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  8. purr1n

    purr1n Finding his inner redneck

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    Big banners with red letters wouldn't help. It's Internet social media YouTube Instagram Tik-Tok culture. It artificially inflates one sense of importance - where they get a rude awakening at SBAF - that their high opinion or "knowledge" is worth shit.

    This is why I love this place - why this forum still looks like a 2005 Internet forum. Peeps gotta earn respect first.
     
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    Does it? It is the most modern-looking (and, in many ways, the best functioning) forum platform that I use. Leaves VBS (which really does still look much like it did in 2005) in the dark.

    Call me a dotard if you like ;) but it does has its advantages, like not being at all keen to shift from forum-format to "social media" facebook/etc --- which is no more social and much less useful.

    I love the combination of on-going conversation and permanent-reference-material content that forums facilitate. I would like to say Long live internet forums, but sadly, that would, in the facebook/twitter/instagram age, be optimistic. Many are struggling. The ones that are not are those that manage to combine subject-oriented passion, the shared community sense, and... the certain something that makes them different. Let's face it: Headphones on the net? We certainly have a choice. But we are here, rather than elsewhere. Some of the reasons shout from the page at a glance: others are far more subtle.

    Welcome to those who want to join in that difference. And maintain it. If they don't want to be SBAF-different, they can be happy enough with the alternatives. We cant. And we will not be turned into one of those alternatives.

    Keep up the good work!

    :sail:
     
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    I've posted this before, but I'll repeat myself...

    [​IMG]

    edit: do kids these days even know who Clippy is?
    edit2: they'll probably think he's from that new Toy Story movie...
     
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    I like how little overhead this site has compared to most other online forums. I only get half a bar of signal in the steam room and SBAF still loads quickly enough.
     
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    The sad thing is that you had to make a thread for this.
     
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  13. Lyander

    Lyander Too sensitive for SBAF

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    Speaking as one of the much less useful/experienced members of the forum, I thought not to post anything in this thread since that'd have been nothing more than un-funny irony.

    That said, I'm compelled to react: PISS OFF, CLIPPY, I KNOW WHAT I'M DOING.

    Okay. Got it out of my system.

    @Thad E Ginathom social media is fun, and useful insofar as keeping up with non-important news goes, but proper fora like this are definitely more my style as well, for the same reasons you'd listed above.
     
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    aamefford Nothing like chamberpot coffee

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    When I started here, I left repeatedly. Now that I’ve been here a while, I’ve left everywhere else. I’m on board with exercising caution in member admission. I will note that on occasion, some of the most entertaining content is also some of the least relevant.
     
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    As a still recent member myself, for the benefit of newcomers: after introducing yourself, use of the profile status is a good way to let folks get to know you without crapping up the forums. Don't bring the other garbage mentioned above there either, though. Discuss audio or tell some dumbass jokes or whatever. The character limit is a savior to both the writer and the reader.

    This community is extremely welcoming if you can follow like three rules and are not an edgelord.
     
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    It always feels a bit uncomfortable when a rando is making profile posts, it's like a stranger suddenly inserting themselves into a conversation between a group of friends.

    The best way to integrate is by asking good questions and contributing content. The content doesn’t have to be the best at first, it just needs to be genuine and considered. It’ll get better over time. That way people will familiarise themselves with new members by way of something of substance. They’ll earn some trust and even respect that way and will quickly be welcomed to the table.

    I haven’t been around for awhile, but I recall @taisserroots and @rlow being good examples of this.
     
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    When deciding if you should make a new post or reply to a thread, less is truly more. You should strive for quality posts over a high quantity of posts. If what you have to say is new territory or adds to the current conversation, then I would highly encourage you to post, but if the new thread or reply adds no real value to the conversation then it is probably best left in your head.

    Also, even though others have said this, I want to reiterate how important it is to read all of the forum rules and to introduce yourself! Not doing either of those things is like showing up to a costume party without a costume and no one at the party knows who you are.
     
  18. Claud

    Claud Wow, I made it this far without being a friend?

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    I don't know if this is the appropriate thread. I would like to thank the Staff and Friends for allowing me to join. As an old duffer, it took me a while to get the hang of this place. Its so unlike the other forums where I have participated for many years like Audio Assylum, The Lounge and head Fi.
    Since I arrived, thanks to the members here I have made positive upgrades to my computer HiRez headphone system. There is just nothing as good as when SBAF gets a piece of equipment and puts it on tour. You don't get just one review, but several. It don't get better than that. Thank you guys for my Phonitor E and my Matrix Sabre Pro MQA. and thank you to the other Friends here for their guidance early on.
     
  19. fastfwd

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    As a brand-new member, I had no idea what the "profile status" entry on my profile page was for. I didn't know whether profile status might appear under my avatar in every post, or become part of my signature, or just be shown to people who happened to be browsing my profile page -- so I experimented by trying a couple of entries like "x" and ".", just to see where they showed up.

    Imagine my surprise when somebody immediately hammered me with a couple of dislikes for that. It would have been nice to know that communication through profile posts is a thing here, and that there's a "New Profile Post" search that members monitor as well as the more traditional "New Post" search.

    Maybe that's also true for other forums, but I'd never seen it before. A sentence or two explaining it -- either in the new-user instructions or above the profile status text-entry box itself -- might help others who are also unfamiliar.
     
  20. purr1n

    purr1n Finding his inner redneck

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    Seeing how one reacts when chided with: "WTH dude! You pushed that blinking red button! Are you an idiot? You are not supposed to push that blinking red button!", provides a wealth of information regarding a person's suitability for SBAF. It's like WoW. I let my son get burnt when joining a dungeon group in WoW for the first time not understanding the customs and conventions. (There's a lot unsaid with acronyms and shorthand in the game.) It's a good way to learn. I eventually taught my son that typing in "I'm nub" or "I've never been in this dungeon before" or "what does assist mean" goes a long way to others who are already well familiar with the game.

    Here are some bad signs:
    • Wow, you guys are too mean.
    • How dare you, if you are familiar with my YouTube channel, you would have known that...
    • Isn't this a public forum where we can all get along?
    • How dare you treat I, a holder of golden knowledge from an established lineage of audiophiles.
    • V=IR, P = V^2/R: whats that? (this is somewhat understandable).
    • This forum is not normal.
    • I dislike that piece of gear because Amir measured the SINAD as 103db instead of 118db.
    • This headphone meets Sean Olive's Harmon target almost exactly or "Harmon neutral".
    • I read an opinion that I didn't agree with, so I just could not resist the urge to disagree on my very first post.
    • I can't tell a difference between DACs. (I bet you would if I put a gun to your head and made you practice for a blind test).
    • Here are my pictures of my stuff (exotic toobs, gear, rooms, etc.) without anything actually related to audio gear observations.
    • You guys don't like alotta bass (probably more accurate to say that we don't like peaky treble)
    • 6th post (as a nub) in a thread with 13 posts.
    Typical good sign:
    • My bad for not reading the intro thread. Let's start over. Hi I'm Bob. I like the sound of X over Y. (introduction, and simple, to the point, earnest observation)
     
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