Prism Callia: Flush your Schiit

I just erased a 3000-word essay. It's moot even to just click "dislike" so I'll try to make this brief:

- This whole thing is bad taste. Some may find that post funny, but I find it uncalled for. I dislike some Schiit gears, but some others like them and that's okay. Jason has no say in what his customers claim. I don't see how Jason has to take the fall here.

- Jason and Schiit are doing very well and I support their direction. Literally no other manufacturer on the market currently is making a $199 balanced DAC of any kind, let alone one that actually sounds "good". Everybody else is too busy coming out with $2000 Astell clones or $4000 luxurious headphones. Shame on them.

- It's a hobby. I come to this site to seek cohesive and understandable thoughts on new gears I may consider. I don't come here to read about rich kids showing off expensive new toys and shitting on everyone else's toys. I'd hope we have all graduated from kindergarten by now.

@purr1n on that note, please take your time with my stuffs. I don't pester you because I know everyone is busy. Hell, I'm busy myself. I've been stuck finishing up on a project for the past 3 weeks. The pandemic has only put more tasks on my table (on top of my day job, I also have to help my parents with extra COVID paperworks now too), and I can't just relax when the house is full of people. I think it's all too easy to forget that some of us actually live in the real world and have real worries as well.

 

I read a scientific paper a few years ago that basically said internet trolls are psychopaths and sadists.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191886917304270

 

Jason is a mensch. Regardless of whether or not I use schiit dacs or amps or whatever. Full stop. That said, I think online forums invite hyperbole, tomfoolery, and I say this as a extremely hyperbolic person. This thread and others like it serve a valuable function of proposing alternatives to status quo. That is a valuable thing and I’m all for exploring the hobby.

 

I beg to differ that Dan Lavry's less talented in comparison to Fred and Dave. I used to own a Cranesong HEDD 192, and I use a Forssell MADA now (only the dac side). In my studio, there's a Lavry Gold ADC.

Lavry Gold's ADC and DAC is still one of the most respected converters in the mastering world. He is also an adamant designer who stand by his choice.

One day I hope I can have a Lavry quintessential dac.

 

First of all keep in mind that i just had a 15 h shift with everything that u can imagine, from Covid patients to a 50y old man sticking a can of some sort up his ass and a 37y thinking he could play Tarzan, drunk, in the middle of the forests of Sweden with his friends and broke his right side extremities, yes it was that type of shitty night and i am grumpy. I admire you @Bill-P because i am too grumpy to erase this.

I feel the original post was good and a nice perspective of a less-known (for me at least) piece of gear and, by that time, i thought that the tittle was just a funny poke/shot at Schiit lovers and i didn't think, at that point, that it could be a cheap, low and bad tasting, shot at the brand, products or their representatives.

Unlike @purr1n I won't assume that original intent was to shit on schiit but if it was than it's a bad joke BUT if it wasn't OP has presented/introduced to us an alternative to the "usual suspects" and i always appreciate that, or rather did until i read the situation that followed. So now what i thought was a very good contribution will be seen with suspicious eyes and i will always wonder if the gear is actually good or was "elevated" in order to undermine Schiit products. You really fcked up @neomax and, by dumbness synergy, all the ones that found it funny. The original title was already "pushy" but could be viewed with humor but it had to go lower and personal...

Let this be a lesson to haters, stupid people and all of us in general, you can easily (and stupidly) destroy a good contribution you have made.

Also about Torq's topic i will always be thankful for his reviews and insight. He helped me and, i am sure, quite a high number of other members in acquiring and avoiding certain gears and i will always be thankful for it.
His contributions were perfect for that specific time period.

I don't play favors, not in real life and not here, and knowing pretty well that i can't influence the administration decision in any way, i would like to think that the long-term, long-contributing, members that, in a moment of less clarity or high trollness, liked that post can have their ban lengths shortened. If no one falls in this category than that's that.

Absolutely but unfortunately it went where it shouldn't have and the bans were well deserved and, hopefully, it will serve as a future example for anyone of us that thinks that it's funny to go to far, so consequences are well deserved.

In the end i am grumpy and annoyed for the fact that the thread became tainted.

 

Totally agree. I appreciated the review of the Callia, but the “Flush Your Schiit” thing was just trolling. I reviewed the RME elsewhere, and I put the Modi 3 in the mix of comparisons. The basic takeaway IMHO is that the Modi 3 is like 80-85% of the RME in sound for 1/12th the price. I haven’t heard it yet, but signs point to the Modius being superior to the RME by a wide margin. The Topping stuff isn’t even worth mentioning. Schiit’s price to performance ratio is off the charts.

As Marv said above, I think Torq’s “Life After Yggdrasil” threads over-hyped the Yggdrasil, creating its own backlash. But saying that a few similarly priced pro converters are Yggdrasil’s equal or, depending on one’s preferences, slightly better is far different from saying “Flush Your Schiit.”

I bought my Forssell used, and the previous owner had kind of bunged up the faceplate. It was a good deal, but I wanted to have it checked out and get a new face place. Had the seller ship it to Fred Forssell. He was super responsive and kind — replaced the face place, gave it a clean bill of health, and shipped it to me for a quite reasonable amount.

 

Something something “kink shaming.”

More seriously, thanks for taking care of people, especially in times like these.

 

I cannot imagine going to so much trouble to appear to be someone else. I can't figure out the motivation. Maybe that's because while I am an asshole, I am not a troll? I dunno. Color me confused.

 

You will all decide for yourselves if this is funny or sad, but I don't even know what discord is. I mean, I know what the word means but I am pretty sure that is not what you are referring to.

 

Discord is great. We have one for our old World of Warcraft guild. We've known each other for 15 years and even though most of us don't play anymore it's still fun to chat and send memes and whatnot. Certainly easier than Ventrilo or (heaven forbid) mumble.

 

So I am not missing anything.