Psalm gives his opinion on speakers from his mom's basement

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    Points removed for having the laptop sitting on top of the turntable though.
     
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    85Hz sound wavelength is around 4 meters so imaging is near impossible to detect below that. When I first setup the 7060B I must have messed up with the settings, because the imaging was not good. I actually didn't believe that I could not detect lower freq localization.
     
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    That's the cruel joke. The vintage big speakers pictured in this very thread use horns up top for controlled dispersion and more even off-axis performance. Off-axis response for modern speakers using dome tweeters mounted flush on the baffle actually kind of sucks.

    Me personally, I'd use big speakers and horns for HT to get the same kind of sound at the theatres. Three of them behind a perforated screen. Then self-powered monitors for the surrounds. And some 13 cu. ft. cabinet subwoofers.
     
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    love the kubrick 2001 space odyssey poster.
     
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    @purr1n

    I read this through the thread before, but I forgot that you were talking about speaker placement relative to the walls. My bad.
     
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    years ago I read this review that began by pointing out how reproduced music is a miniature of a live performance. how you can physically feel the thump of a drum pushing you back and how reproduced music, even if deafeningly loud with bass that shakes the whole house does not have that visceral feeling, that force.

    I suspect this is what you chase and call "dynamic" and I agree that these big ol' JBLs which are indeed used in live arenas and also vintage horns that i have heard do have that quality. problem is that all of them sound bad, and rock/blues/pop/metal live performances also sound awful. the only live performances that sound good are the ones of the caliber that pink floyd does. for example David gilmore;s meltdown at royal Albert hall, and classic music performances. I have never been to a hard rock concert that hasnt sounded awful to me if I am to judge them against my personal ideal. I love them and I have fun at them but I dont want my stereo to sound like that because it f'ing sucks hence omega + 300b and EL34 to beautify the reproduction. so:

    • OB: yes
    • widebander + quality tube amp: hell yes as long as you have enough headroom so that it doesnt crap out on demanding parts of the music.
    • vintage big box JBL + tubes = ok but i still dont like human voice on them. up top and down low they're fine.
    • vintage big box JBL + dangerous music convert-2 + 250Watts corwn amp = f**k off you communist pig. this is torture.
    • vintage horn = no
    • modern uber expensive horn = ok but there are other ways of showing what an annoying f'ing dick you are. write a check for charity and listen your shit jazz music on a cheaper speaker you asshole.
    • electrostatic + 120Watts of reasonable power = sure.
     
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    Yeah, I might get a clockwork Orange poster as well
     
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    You'll need to more specific on which "big box JBLs". Different eras, different leadership, different philosophies, different designs, different sound.

    Where did you hear these? What models? What associated gear was used? What big box JBL did you hear with the Dangerous Music Convert-2 which was so horrible? Or was this imagined? Pictures or it didn't happen.

    What you said amounts to someone saying I don't like Chevy V8s.

    OK on the hard rock concerts sounding like shit. However have you gone to pop concerts where the sound engineers weren't idiots and didn't crank shit up to clipping? The Billy Joel and k.d. Lang concerts I went to years ago sounded fantastic.

    Finally, have you tried your 300B / EL34 to beautify the reproduction of these hypothetical big box JBLs?
     
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    And one of the watches looks to be an old-school Casio digital or something similar? If it is I'm 100% sure @spwath hadn't yet been spawn when that thing was made!
     
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    I went to junior high in SoCal in the 80's - this was such a real thing. Not this many, but I regularly saw three deep...
     
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    What decade are you living in and what the f**k is wrong with you? A stage noise rock show sounds sick. The volume of a drum kit and guitar amps just work together and have since the 50s. The problem is recording it and mixing the levels on the record to give the same visceral effect at safer playback levels.

    AC/DC, Motorhead, Black Sabbath, Iron Maiden, and the Stooges are or were ferocious live acts.

    Just because you hate the sound of instruments, the pounding, martial snap of a snare, the massive soaring leads of typical Marshall amplification, walls of distorted power chords backed by bass slamming you in the chest, guys howling their lungs out, and string sections becoming a massive washing crescendo of sound doesn’t mean that’s not what they sound like.

    You’re the type of wimp who wants to envelope Thin Lizzy in goo, not hear the picking at all, make epic songs about getting into bar brawls into whining about hissy fits, and wants to yell about how those kids and their raucous rock ‘n roll are turning your small town upside-down so we must all turn down from 10 to 2 and play adult contemporary supermarket music with ambiguous lyrics that are probably about blowing Jesus. You’re the bad guy from Footloose.

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    HitmanFluffy and I heard Metallica and Immortal on SET driven widebanders with no woofers. You couldn’t even hear the guitars. Those setups are mostly for fat, jazz losers who want to talk about how what is uneven awful distortion, fatiguing distortion brings out the throatiness of jazz chanteuses who all smoked rather than listen to the god damn music. Why the hell do you think AER and Voxativ sell active woofers? Not even subwoofers. As their shit sucks on its own and is unsuitable for anything other being pictured in Stereophile and Good Housekeeping. All that old Altec and Urei crap sucks too.

    Most people want to listen to music. You want chintzy background music for showing off model homes with no furniture and tube amps on the floor and Martin Logans and bitch that most real instruments are too loud to reassure rich idiots. If you want everything to sound like smooth jazz meant to reassure panicking lemmings sitting in a waiting room that a paper cut, blood test, or herpes won’t kill them then be my guest but that’s not what it really sounds like and that’s not what everyone else in the world wants it to sound like.

    You can make everything sound like genital herpes emotional support muzak. I’m going to rock out to Thin Lizzy - Life. Enjoy herpes!

    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mvdHOsFnxJNa9ANW0JpM8YBejVtCPEKMY
     
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