RAAL requisite audio SR1a Review: HOLY MOLY! Buy this now!

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  1. purr1n

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    Hahaha. I thought I was so done with headphones. But I want one of them! Sure, it looks like some kind of sci-fi device, but the ergonomics are top shelf, on par with Dan / MrSpeakers designs which I think are the best in the business.

    Vidar, a moderately priced megawatt pro audio class D amp, an old class 200W in 4-ohms AB pro audio amp, etc. This is the beauty of it I love the fact that no speshal amp is necessary. And that the "demo" I sat through had indicated that a megabuck option was not a necessity. Although this might be interesting to try out on @brencho's Dartzeel. :) Lastly, the price is high, but it's like like punch in the stomach ridiculous like a $10k class D amp stuff in FPE chassis or a $2 IEM running three different types of drivers with severe coherence issues. The RAAL drivers have always been serious high-end parts with a great reputation.

    The box that RAAL | requisite audio provides is pretty straightforward: all simple passive components. It's not like STAX which requires 500-600V bias voltage, and then a huge 1:20 step-up transformer, which is going to affect sound quality.he box that RAAL | requisite audio provides is pretty straightforward: all simple passive components. It's not like STAX which requires 500-600V bias voltage, and then a huge 1:20 step-up transformer, which is going to affect sound quality.

    If no local dealer for you, maybe we can snag one for you here and ship it down. I'm going to see what we can do to get this in for a limited loaner among a few members.

    As others have concurred, there is some roll-off. It's an open baffle design, so it's going to happen. Folks with the PAP Trio designs will have rolloff starting around 50Hz. My big JBLs with the 18" ports rolloff around 40Hz. Yet the overall bass performance of these speakers is nothing short of stunning.
     
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    So with the additional resistors does this effectively run with current mode amplification? Like the First Watt F1 or a Bakoon amp?
     
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    Some stuff got cut off from my last post...

    The appeal of the SR1a to me is the tactility and textural rendering. It does this in a way that reminds me of traditional dynamic drivers, but almost needless to say, with better "speed". Neither the STAX nor the modern thin-diaphragm HFMs have this tactility. And as Psalm said, the HD600/650, even the HD800 to some extent have sort of a "silly-putty" bass. The volume levels aren't quite there in the lowest octaves, but the bass is fast and punchy. Reminds me more of the bass from the guys who are in the BWC (Big Woofer Club) here.
     
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    I presume the resistors are there to present an acceptable load to the amplifier since the impedance is 0.2-ohms, unless the amplifier is an ARC welder. Probably not the most efficient solution and I bet the resistors dissipate a lot of heat. This explains why 100W+ into 8-ohm amps are being recommended.

    A speciality amplifier might be interesting. Low voltage, high current. A 5V power rail would be more than enough. Opposite of tube amps. Think of it like the EL Lay River (when it has water). Slow flow, but a ton of water being moved.
     
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    Is it possible to merge both topics?


    Maybe i am confusing but weren't you considering a new power amp for it or am i day dreaming?

    Dreamed about a EU loaner since @Zhanming057 impressions.
     
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    Put 10 2A3s (per channel) in cathode follower configuration and feed directly from line level DAC. Rezolooshun monster....
     
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    Damn if I'm not thinking about one now as well! If there is a limited loaner I'd be totally up for it, although my trigger finger might not be able to stay still that long...

    Was just about to finish setting up my 2-channel system in my new home office and this could slot in nicely. Only concern I have is how well my amp(s) would match with the sr1a. I have Atma-Sphere M60 Mk III OTL monoblocks that are rated at 60wpc into 8 ohms, but worry this isn't enough.

    Also just realized I have an old Acurus A250 sitting around I could try, but that might be too high at 250wpc into 8 ohms.

    Any thoughts?
     
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    Not too high. There's no such thing as not enough power. Up to the user or driver of the car to be judicious.
     
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    Someone tried with with dual Benchmark AHB2 & said it was a noticeable improvement over the single 150 watt unit.
    Top top that off, they said using medium gain was a big improvement over low gain, which sounded soft & I think he said bass light. A few other people also said trying it with 300 watt amps was even better than their 100W~ish amps they tried.

    So the amp requires a lot of power. Running dual Vidars would probably be the minimum.

    FYI There are two ads on head-fi for the the SR1A, but Raal has no transferable warranty, though they say the drivers are user replaceable.
     
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    Bridged mono Ahb2 give 380wpc into 8ohms. Not too much for these. And there is a noticeable boost in dynamics, focus and layering over just one.
     
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    More than a lot of power, it requires stable current delivery. The impedance is purely resistive, so an amp that doubles it's power and can cope with a 1 ohm load isn't a requirement.

    It just needs an amp that does 150w at 4 ohms with authority. Ayre or Gryphon integrateds would be excellent choices if money flows freely.

    A direct drive amp would be incredible, something like a Bakoon on steroids with a matching current-out DAC or phono preamp would be an awesome all current drive system.
     
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    One Vidar was fine (see below). Not saying two can't be better, but I don't agree that dual Vidars would be the minimum. I'd rather not put the cart before the horse. The transducer will make the most difference. Even with the below modest setup, I don't remember any STAX rig shocking me like this. This is coming from someone who went down the STAX path with T2 DIY.

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    The point that I wanted to make is that this can be had for mere mortals since the amping costs are not high. Heck, if you want dumb power, pick up some used Crest CA2 or QSC RME850a for $200 each and run them in mono. Or a vintage GAS Ampzilla for less than a grand. Throw in a Mackie Big Knob or JBL Nano Patch for volume. Automatic TOTL setup (with room to grow) for less than $4k. It's not like STAX where any STAX amp below $3k sounds like ass, and best option is to buy a DIY amp from some dude in Iceland.

    As I said, if I can get my hands of the SR1a and you guys are still curious about the Temple of True High-End, I'm headed over to @brencho's place to try on his Dartzeels which is stable into 2-ohms. I bet Willy has some awesome stuff too.

    I would still maintain that a specialty direct drive amp designed for high current but low voltage would be ideal. Less losses due to heat. I'd love to help Jason out on an EQ curve too if he goes forward with this project. I figure a small notch and a bass shelf is all that is needed for close to perfection.
     
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    I think for a lot of people the SR1a's might take the place of near field studio monitors.

    For what it's worth, if you don't want to wade through over 350 posts: Torq first used the Parasound NewClassic 2125 v2 amp with the SR1a's but quickly moved to a single Vidar which he much preferred for only $100 extra. He was using an RME ADI-2 DAC and Phonitor X as preamp.

    He really likes the Chord Etude and Linn Akurate 4200 amps as well as dual mono Vidars. He is now using DAVE in Pre-Amp (Digital Pre) mode. No mention of Yggdrasil so far.
     
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    In time. Not to take away from @Zhanming057, but I want to keep a separate and different perspective, at least for now. Also, you guys know my preferences, a known quantity over years, so this allows you to calibrate or triangulate to your own.

    I don't know if many of you guys are aware, but I don't read others impressions so that I am not influenced by them. Not too different from the ground rules at the Schiit blind test for amps where we were advised to just take notes and only share thoughts after the session had ended.

    BTW, this was why it was hilarious when one fellow turned to me and said in a low voice "f**k amp A". I'm sure everyone else in the room heard him.
     
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    Looks great, glad you like them, but @purr1n is that a MickyD's Icon on your phone?
     
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    Lolololol exactly! Extremely 80s futuristic looking, all hard edges and angles.
     
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    Damn you Marv!

    Danny offered me to take a pair as a loaner from CanJam but I passed at the moment. I really need to listen to them in a quiet environment. Any reviews coming from a meet like CanJam with headphones like this are meaningless.

    Think I will revisit that loaner/purchase decision...
     
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    Been talking to Danny for a little while now about bringing a pair into the store. First time I heard the RAAL I drove up to Ventura to hear it and it was well worth the drive for me. Got a bunch of speaker amps that can drive the SR1A and really want to play with it myself.
     
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    God damn I just checked the price on these. Are headphones really worth this much? It works out about the same as something like a pair of KH310 locally (and that’s the headphones/box only).
     

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