Schiit Byygy Dac Just Landed

Discussion in 'All Points Bulletin / Be on the Look Out' started by Royaume, Apr 28, 2025.

  1. bengo

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    I'm sure we'll see a trickle down to the lower priced schiit sooner rather than later, for those who don't want to drop $3k on a DAC.
     
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    Yeah they’ve already dropped hints that Singular will trickle down to Gungnir and then to Bifrost, eventually.
     
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    Did Schiit invite anyone to listen to Singular and compare to the old ones? I'm very interested in this but as of right now not much information on sound differences.
     
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    Id like to do a Holo May vs Schiit Singular comparo. Will check warchest funds and sell some stuff. They are about the same price range.

    Curious how the Nexus output stage will sound. Will it be rich and bassy like Saga S or slightly less so outright rich but with massive ooomph like Kara?

    I get the suspicion Yggdrasil Singular will be DAVE-like but with some balls. If it can keep the DAVE clarity, separation, but have balls and PS Audio DSD like fluidity that would be amazing.

    I understand that there is newfound appreciation for the DAVE, but let's not get ahead of ourselves. I know that DAVE will be too tonally lean for a lot of people here.

    Oh and while we are at it, maybe someone can start a thread on where we felt Schiit felt short in the past with analysis on why, where it did work, and why it didn't, instead of cry about it. I am absolutely sure the community can be constructive enough to avoid turning such a thread into a shit on Schiit thread.

    Quite frankly I'm sick of whining. Do something constructive. Ask not what SBAF can do for you. Ask what you can do for SBAF.
     
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    Ping me at the right time, and I should be able to lend a May KTE for the exercise.
     
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    DAVE aside I think a comparison with the Rockna Wavedream may be worthwhile since I've heard some folks describe it as "Schiit sound done better", just at a much higher price. This is all stuff I'm never likely to own but the academic curiosity is there lmao.
     
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    The Wavedream is like a better MiB. More resolving, clearer, engaging, resolving, fluid, deeper staging. Or like a better Gungnir 2 with tonal signature more like MiB (although G2 and MIB are largely compatible in tonal signature with respect to component synergy, the G2 is more mid-centric.)

    Some high-end DACs do certain things better than Rockna WD (DAVE has better articulation and speed, Metrum/Sonnet/Abbas have lusher vocals and fluidity, Lampi has better microdynamics). The strength of the Wavedream is that it doesn't do anything less than very good, hence hard to describe.

    I'd like to spend more time with Holo May. I hear it's quite a step up from the Spring which I didn't care for as much as others here.
     
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    Wavedream and Wavelight are getting refreshes too. Gonna ask Rockna in Munich how and when.
     
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    This would be the dream DAC right there. I currently use the transform modded ps audio DS mk1 in my main system and it has me pretty bought into the type of approach schiit is taking with the byggy. Has my cautiously optimistic.
     
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    I volunteer Taco-fi to participate in this endeavor if you're interested Marv. I am very interested in the new Schiit Singular, n-bit delta sigma is the future from my view and seeing another entrant from someone that knows what they're doing has me very excited. We are mostly seeing custom single bit delta sigma come out like playback designs or ps audio.

    In Austin we have my rig we could use to compare Dave to the new Schiit and another one of the guys has a May he runs with all the HQPlayer trimmings and a great rig/room. We could make a day of it, get some great tacos and bbq along the way. What do you say?

    Plus it'd be fun to have you in town and hear our stuff regardless of the comparo
     
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    What do you mean by n-bit? Honest question. I'm curious and would like to understand.
     
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    That sounds like a frikkin gold mine. Can you imagine all the different "collab" flavors?
    My youngest would take a Taylor Swiftie Byggy in a heartbeat.
    I'd take one with the New Orleans skyline on it called NO Byggy.

    for me it wasn't so much the price tag (yeah, sure some) but the size. The Yggdrasil is just monster-sized and doesn't fit in any space I could envision for any audio system I'd want to have.

    The Gungnir ended up being the size I wanted. I remember asking for a smaller Yggdrasil and Schiit saying, "can't be done." Then, Gungnir some 18months later? One of the things I love about the company.

    Can someone explain n-bit D/S and how it differs from PCM with a different bit-depth and sample rate? One bit D/S I get. Is n-bit D/S just a low-bit-size PCM with a noise shaper?
     
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    this is why I buy stuff sight unseen from you. You’re so f'ing honest that I would rather give you money than 99% of other retailers. All my “coming out of retirement purchases” for the last 5 years have been Schiit gear
     
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    in broad strokes its the same as 1 bit, but instead of oversampling to a very high frequency, and then modulating/noiseshaping down to 1 bit, you do so down to more than 1 bit. most delta sigma dac chips are like 2-5 bits, not 1. they haven't been one en-masse in a very long time actually, because its arguably impossible to design a stable single bit modulator. this is why it is somewhat confusing to me that all the custom single bit converters out there exist, instead of using multiple bits. Chord and DCS both use n-bit designs, and now Schiit as well will have one.
     
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    Thanks. This is very helpful. What would you say are the advantages of n-bit delta sigma over multibit designs?
     
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    Let's do it since I am close by now.
     
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    I'll bring the modded mk1 to compare as well.
     
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    WTF? Delta sigma modulation is a mature technology for analog <—> digital conversion. It has been since the first multibit modulators in the mid 90s. Now they switch higher in frequency, enabling 1st order filters in place of 2nd order, they are quieter (there noise floor was already below a cd), and there’s much more crammed in the ic packages making them easier to implement in cheaper products.
     
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    What do you think we can expect of Byggi Smalls?
     

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