Schiit Fulla 2 Released

Discussion in 'Headphone Amplifiers and Combo (DAC/Amp) Units' started by neogeosnk, Dec 6, 2016.

  1. shipsupt

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    A big knob is always a plus.
     
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    If your 5:1 statement was true, manufactures would either sell either <99 products or 5x<99 dollar products. That's obviously not true. Anyway, let's see. I think 199 for something that took on the LH GO and the Mojo would do a lot better than 99 for something that takes on the dragonfly.
     
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    Yeah, I mean the last time I saw a knob that big.. awwscrewit..
     
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    A big knob just feels right in your hand
     
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    LOL!

    What does an audiophile level 0 to 30 do to buy products? He/she takes it to Amazon and types in the search box "DAC Amp". This is what he/she gets, in order:

    1) FiiO E10K USB DAC and Headphone Amplifier (Black) - $75
    2) SMSL SD793-II PCM1793 DIR9001 DAC Digital Audio Decoder Amplifier, Black - $62.99
    3) Fiio E17K ALPEN 2 USB DAC Headphone Amplifier - $99
    4) Nobsound NS-08E Vacuum Tube Integrated Amplifier Mini Audio HiFi Stereo Headphone Amp - $50
    5) Audioengine D1 24-bit Digital-to-Analog Converter - $169
    6) Focusrite Scarlett Solo (2nd Gen) USB Audio Interface with Pro Tools | First $99 (NUMERO UNO SELLER)
    7) Schiit Audio SCH-13 Sys Passive Preamp - $59
    8) Monoprice 111567 Desktop Headphone Amplifier - $99
    9) SMSL SD793II DAC Decoder Mini Coaxial Optical Input with Built-in Headphone Amplifier 24BIT/96KHZ PCM1793 HiFi - $64.99
    10) Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi HD USB Audio System with Phono Preamp - $99

    Underlined the ones that in my mind are competitors to the Fulla 2, because they would be the ones I would consider as well when searching for a Fulla 2 like solution (which I was in the past).

    The Creative is proly more feature rich, but likely not as powerful. The Fiio is pretty kool, but also not as powerful (it is an internal battery deal). The Monoprice is not really all that fair because it's not really USB powered nor as portable.

    All are $99. All have been around for a while.

    If I was looking for a Fulla 2 like solution (and I was), I would not look at the LH GO (cuz that's for higher level audiophiles, looking for a different type of device in a different price range), I would look at the above. Which I was.

    I'm not sure if the Fulla 2 can be used as an amp/pre-amp w/o computer interaction. But if it can, then it's even more awesome (in my little world).
     
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    Anyway. It is a competitive market. Again, personally I would have bought the Fulla 2 instead of my Monoprice 111567. It is much more portable and cute. But Fulla 2 was not around then. And yes, I like $99 for a DAC/Amp solution that does not suck.
     
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    I had some of the Fiio products up there - the Fiio e07k docked on the Fiio e09k, which I believe is essentially the same components as the Monoprice Headphone amp/dac - The Fulla2 is waaaay better sounding than this ever was. Also had the DF 1.2, Fulla2 definitely better. The DF Red is hard for me to compare with the Fulla2 - I have compared these two, switched back and forth, etc - I believe the two have a similar level of DAC sound quality, both of these seem really good in the DAC dept. The Fulla2 definitely has more power, goes much louder, but I can't say for sure which is really better. My gut says the Fulla is better on the high Z hps like hd650, but at lower power levels, they are very close, imho. We need someone with better ears than me. But the DF Red is also $200.
     
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    To be fair the audiophile level 0 to 30 would take much less convincing to go with a FiiO than a Schiit, since FiiO is very prevalent in the low end of the market.
     
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    We'll see what the market says. A product will speak for itself as it reaches maturity and has been around for a while.
     
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    OT I know, but I seriously thought this "audiophile level xx" stuff was tongue in cheek. Seems like it's not? A quick Google search didn't yield anything. What's the deal with audiophile levels?
     
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    Your audiophile level simply isn't high enough to comprehend audiophile levels.
     
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    It is tongue in cheek. I suspect @Marvey is the progenitor of this, becase of his fondness for D&D type level, alignment, etc references. It's like being a level 42 wizard, it's just that level 42 audiophiles never survived any battles, so they're not in the Player's handbook.
     
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    Ha! Thanks for the quick education on that :)
     
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    There's a lot to be said for a proper volume knob, especially a big smooth one like that. Yes, we're trapped making big knob jokes, I admit, but a real and non-fiddly volume control? A real quality of life feature right there.
     
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    Can anyone confirm/deny this? Assuming the pot is turned all the way to the right, the fixed and variable DAC outputs both output at the same level, and the only real difference besides any attenuation from the pot is the slightly different I/O behavior as described here?
     
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    To clarify: does this mean that the 1/8" analog input overrides both the fixed and variable DAC outputs (as well as the headphone output)? Or just the headphone and variable DAC outputs?

    I already ordered one of these by the way. Major kudos on the design. Got a few setup ideas I have in mind that I'm just trying to think through.
     
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    @tirisredjuh Hey, just a heads up, everyone will like it if you post a quick (or long) introduction in the "New Members - Introduce Yourself" thread. It's like compulsory friendliness, lol, but it's also part of creating community. or something.
     
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    Did a quick test and the analog input seems to only pass audio to the headphone and variable output, not the fixed
     

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