Schiit Jotunheim 2

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  1. oldschool

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    Now I am tempted to upgrade my Jot 1.. probably not a big need but upgraditis is a bitch!
     
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    I've seen v1.0 & v1.1 --> 4 output caps were removed, it's kinda killed by the 'ole USB gen2 anyway. Does yours have a card (for the loaner)?
     
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    No card. I should get both for loaner. Will get basic measurements done and then ship out on loaner program.
     
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    https://forum.headphones.com/t/schiit-jotunheim-headphone-amplifier-official-thread/5231/175

    So I went digging for a few more examples of a bright Jot2, and wasn't coming up with much. I think my exposure to other Jot2 impressions weren't of great enough sample size to make the assumption I did. Of course, it could just be the audiophile language, preferences, and different interpretations of "bright" that could be hindering this as well.

    I'll happily go forward with the sound the Jot2 is giving me now.
     
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    Excellent impressions! Since the presentation is similar to SET amps, how does it compare to the community favorite SW51+? Both are at very similar price points too so I think this may be a worthy comparison.
     
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    SW51 downsides are that it lacks oomph and cannot power planars. Bass is better on Jot 2. Highs is the other way around, but not by much.

    Obviously a hard choice for headphones that work. I would need for them to be side by side to make a call.
     
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    I am kind of leaning the other way, especially since I (accidentally) discovered that Jot 1 driven by Freya S x4 active mode actually mitigated some of the Jot's minor (to me and my old ears at least) deficiencies. If my budget allowed I would probably go ahead and buy, compare, and keep the best.
     
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    Bifrost 2 / Jot 2 / Stellia is a really good bedroom setup!

    Wh I first listened to Jot 2 I was smiling ear to ear from the bass impact, details and overall performance.
    The voicing is very unique for a SS amp and I’m digging it.
    I’m still yet to do a proper comparison with the BHA-1, but from limited listening they trade blows. BHA-1 does sound a bit more HIFI/refined (maybe?), but Jot 2 has more soul.
     
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    A while back you gave a list of your top 7 or so SS amps. Would you say the Jot 2 dethrones everything else on that list save the 2 aforementioned? Would also love to hear more pairing impressions.
     
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    Where would you place it with respect to M3 and Beta22? I know it is a memory stretch (for me also - but at least I heard those amps in comparison to much of the gear referenced in this thread), but I recall you considering M3 being one of your favorite SS DIY amps, and one of those builds would probably fall into said no-mans land.
     
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    TBH, I preferred M3 > B22. A bit of it is rollable opamps on M3. Not building or having an M3 built back in the day is one of my regrets, but the Jot 2 is better. Different sound of course. If you haven't heard the Continuity stuff, then it's hard to say. It does sound different from more traditional SS designs. It ticks the boxes for me. Aside from component synergy and personal preference which will always play the biggest role, the Jot 2 IMO is sort of a Magnum Opus for @schiit with respect to headamps.

    The road to get here was pretty long and really a story for him to tell. I've had a lot of discussions with Jason in regard to why vintage stuff like the Pioneer M22 sounded so good. Some of the ideas and more (Broskie's Tubecad) went into the Jot 2.
     
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    Have you written anything on what this difference amounts to for the listener? (happy to go dig through a thread, just need a pointer in the right direction) This seems in some ways like the crux of it, so I am trying to build up some image in my head of what that would be.

    M3 vs B22: M3 was more euphonic and pleasantly competent to my ears, while B22 had a strange low end aggressiveness to it, almost making some music sound more punchy than it ought to be. I haven't really settled which is better myself, but I can totally see the preference for M3 - it definitely was an easier sell in terms of living with it.

    I was considering making one back in 2009 also, but just haven't gotten to it with life getting rather chaotic.

    So, what I guess I am trying to sort out with Jot2: should I expect it to be relatively euphonic for an SS design, or we are getting something else unusual with Continuity?
     
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    Oh damn it Marv, I'm waiting on shipment of an SW51+ and here you go using words like magnum opus and saying it's got some random bits of M22 genetic material tossed in there Jurassic Park style. I love the Lyr 3 and you're saying it's better than that. I'm pretty tempted to order one and do a three way shootout with my Liquid Platinum for supremacy on my main system.
     
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    Hi! Did you try to plug Jot 2 into your Aegir?
     
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    Hmm, I wonder if @schiit is planning on doing a balanced version of the Loki? If not, I might run BF2 > Jot2 with some software EQ for the HP2/no EQ for the code-X when I'm back in an office one day in 2077.
     
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    So Jot 2 wins on bass, SW51+ on highs, so what about the mids for a tie-breaker?

    A difficult choice indeed! If sonics are a wash between the two (via balanced out on the Jot), you have the Jot2 coming in at roughly 50 bones more once tax and shipping are considered, but it does provide better flexibility in that it works well for dynamics and planars. The decision has already been made for me since I've already pre-ordered a SW51+ to pair with my Auteur. I have a feeling a Jot2 will find its way to me though in the near future...
     
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    To build on what @Scott Kramer posted;
     
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    Jason said there would be no noise with CA iem’s with the balanced output. Anyone tried this?
     

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