shotgunshane’s IEM (custom and universal) recommendations, favorites and classics

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  1. james444

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    Going by impedance measurement, it should sound brighter with higher OI.
     
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    perhaps that the higher OI lowers the damping factor and you end up with both more treble and looser bass?
     
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    Unlikely imo, that a slightly lower damping factor would make a noticeable difference with a low mass / fast decaying armature. In the blog post I linked, Rin Choi even recommends adding 33 ohms resistance to achieve a diffuse field target response, and he doesn't mention a potential problem with damping factor.
     
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    very helpful/illuminating blog! thanks! will soon know how the F111 behaves when it reaches me on xmas eve :)
     
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    Hi Shotgunshane, knew that you owned Westone 3 according to excel sheet you posted. How do you rate the Westone 3? I am interested in the W30 Japan version from Massdrop but I need advice from Pro so perhaps you can help me out a bit. I already have an bright CIEM which is Eartech 3-drivers so prefer something dark and bassy. I had a brief listening of Westone 3 long time back I know that it is warm and kind of muddy. Thanks.
     
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    The Westone 3 was decently fun. It has big mid bass punch that hit hard and fairly fast. Male vocals were rich and chesty sounding. Female vocals could sound dull due to the upper mid valley of house Westone sound. Treble had decent sparkle but lacked extension and air. In other words it was a mid bass heavy V shaped signature. I enjoyed both the Westone 3 and UM3X until I started getting more serious about accuracy.

    If you like the Westone house sound in general, I imagine the W30 would be pretty decent. Westone ergonomics and comfort are pretty much unparalleled but are pretty pricey. Massdrop gets them in a more realistic and fair price range.
     
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    Just demoed the Oriolus Forsteni and Fender FXA7, both 1DD/2BA IEMs, impressions below:

    Oriolus Fosteni:
    - Interesting bass tuning, in most DDs, there's a hump in the bass (50-100hz) where the frequencies roll off on both sides, not so in this, which is neutral in the mid-bass but has a downward sloping subbass emphasis all the way to 20hz (and below). This gives it a nice sense of bass rumble and power but with very little, if any bloat or bleed. I think this might help with portable use, as it is more difficult to attenuate low frequency background noise.
    - Bass texture is pretty good, especially in the subbass regions in part due to the tuning
    - Somewhat laid back through the upper mids, probably a few db short of "reference", but there are no sudden nulls to make it unpleasant.
    - Don't detect big coherency issues, but I'm not a stickler for this sort of thing
    - Surprisingly good amount of air despite the laid back tuning, treble is extended and non-peaky IMO
    - Clarity and separation are good, stage is not the biggest, (slightly smaller than P1)
    - Overall, for ~$400, I'd easily recommend this over something like the Lyra 2 for people who like sig a half step laid back from neutral.

    Fender FXA7:
    - Iffy fit, I am not finicky about fit (otherwise I would've got rid of the EX1000 a long time ago...), but the way the earpiece and nozzle are placed doesn't play well with my ears.
    - Bassy, quite a bit more bassier than the Oriolus, it appears that the whole spectrum is boosted on the Fender rather than just the subbass, some bloat as a result, texture is pretty good though.
    - Bass bleeds to lower mids, which gives a good sense of warmth.
    - Treble is noticeably shelved compared to the Oriolus (and my P1), there's a distinct lack of air and subsequent clarity.
    - Given the price these go for ($500), would only be recommended for people who want something really laid back, and even then, there should be some better options for cheap.
     
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    A $400 Oriolus? Do you have a link for this? I'm only familiar with their very expensive hybrid.
     
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    Don't have a link direct from the manufactuer, but Jaben HK is selling them for 3000 HKD which is around 400 USD: https://www.facebook.com/JabenHK/posts/1291791604174625
     
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    have you compared the cheaper oriolus f. with oriolus mk2? your impressions of you have please :)

    a month ago i auditioned the Oriolus mk2, Fitear TG334 and CA Jupiter at jaben hk... i went away undecided, each was "speschul", can't afford them all... would probably gone for the TG334 had it not been the awful long lead time lol...
     
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    Hello, ShotgunShane!

    I'm currently using SD2 and looking for an upgrade iem. I listen to 80% metal (metalcore, death, powermetal) and 20% smooth R&B. I would like to get a pair of iem with a wider soundstage and a more v-shaped sound signature. On the bass, I want it fast, precise, deep and strong. I have a budget of 1k usd. Any recommendations?

    Or is Andromeda, Rosie and Prophile 8 any good for my needs?
     
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    The JH13 came to mind reading your post. Normally only a custom, JH Audio is releasing them in universal format too. Rosie was too veiled to me; I don't recommend it.

    Andromeda can be a little U shaped on some sources and sounds excellent with various forms of metal.

    A budget custom, the PS4, from Perfect Seal would definitely fit the bill. I think they make them as universals too.

    The pre-Adel version of the Empire Ears Spartan could work too. Their pre-Adel universal shell is tiny but I'm not sure if they use it anymore, now that they have the Adel tech in the line up.

    Some hybrids to consider: iBasso IT03 and Aurisonics ASG-1Plus (Aurisonics are hard to find, as they are no longer produced). These hybrids will have slower bass than balanced armatures but you will receive gains in bass texture and rumble.
     
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    is the tg334 still competitive amongst today's latest and greatest? ie against Noble Kaiser variants or Oriolus 2?

    i am have posted my lcd x up for sale locally to finance this.

    i already have the andro, ex1000 and soon the F111 ... it's a pathetic addiction i know but i have set my sights on the TG334 since i first listened to them last year...

    feel free to tell me that it's an utter waste of money so i could be discouraged lol

    much appreciated
     
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    I think the 334 is still competitive. It's quite bassy but the midrange is excellent. Lots of emotion and depth. The treble was a hair steely but overall very enjoyable. I'm hoping to hear it again sometime or another, as it probably deserves a spot outright on the list, rather than just others worth considering.
     
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    I have to say, the Ibasso it03 is damn good. I'm shocked. Bass, obviously if I'm loving an iem it must hit hard and extend well. Treble extends very nice. Imaging and separation is exquisite. Really loving these. Probably one of the best iems in this price range, giving my beloved ex800st a run for their money.

    Enjoying them right now with the Sony NW-WM1Z... Really incredible pairing.

    @shotgunshane good rec on the it03 brother.
     
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    Been interested in the IT03 for a while.. can't get a good read on the midrange, though.. what's it like in terms of texture, tone, resolution, balance, etc?
     
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    I let mine go due to the fit but really loved the fun signature. Really excellent bass rumble and texture. It's is a little V shaped and some have given criticism of a slightly thin midrange but I didn't find it lacking weight or texture. It's just behind the bass and treble a bit but it's a clear midrange with good tone and at least average resolution. My only criticism beyond fit is the plasticky treble timbre. Other than that it sounds much higher quality than it's asking price. Just keep in mind it's much more of a fun signature than accurate signature.
     
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    I must say yes. The TG334 is so damn smoooooth and addictive, sort of the HD650s in IEM world. It may lacks the highest octave and ultimate refinement of more expensive customs, but has thunderous base and a sweet, musical midrange that feels just right (especially when listening to string-based instruments and vocals). I actually prefer the 334 to the Noble Kaiser 10 (older, universal version). Sure, the K10 has an edge in clarity and treble extension, but for me, its tone sometimes feels cold and uninvolving.
     
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    F111 first 48 hours impression, much more tonally rich than the orion and like you said, the emphasis is lower than the Orion, there is a slight "cupped" quality the ken ball mentioned, i suppose this might be the Ti waveguide and adds to the live/room sound that is very compelling in live or acoustic recordings, less so but not annoyingly so with sterile recordings.

    Tonally, it reminded me of a midway between Orion and CA Nova, Nova is even thicker but to the point of being a little unnatural and noticeably masking some details.

    F111, like minimonitors from harbeth, is quite astutely balanced, you don't miss much until you A/B it with wider bandwidth transducers. I doesn't sound thin on the go, something that Orion's uptilted balance is less successful at.

    the fit for me was really nice, almost as comfortable as shure se215 for me.

    after trying stock, spiral dots and comply, i prefer the sound of the spiral dots a little more but the comfort and isolation of the comply, so i went with comply.

    currently running them off my teac desktop, with ZI set to med (approx 2 Ohm) as well as off my iphone 5. Changed the cable to the 006 because the stock cable (004?) while very pliant doesn't seem to be especially well made, i think i see soldering at the Y split which is a faux pas for me.

    but all in all a lovely piece of kit and for those into small scale classical, jazz, indie and the like, it's well worth the money, wider bandwidth genres might find it too rolled off at both ends.

    thanks for all the advice so far !
     
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    I've tried both. Honestly speaking there isn't a lot of difference between the two in terms of performance; in fact I preferred the Forsteni tonality-wise.

    The MK2 is rather V-shaped with an energetic midrange, with just enough air for a good boost in clarity. The Forsteni on the other hand is more laid-back and neutral, and thus sounds slightly bassier despite having the same bass emphasis as the MK2. While the midrange is little more dull than the MK2, it still manages to retain its air which is rather surprising.
     

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