Welcome to the SBAF Market THE IDEA BEHIND THIS: http://www.superbestaudiofriends.or...lp-buyers-and-sellers.1840/page-2#post-108771 NO FAULT RULE AND MODERATOR ARBITRATION WHEN SHIT HAPPENS: http://www.superbestaudiofriends.or...lp-buyers-and-sellers.1840/page-2#post-166255 Is anyone old enough to remember your neighborhood flea market or swap meet? If you do, you likely remember that you went there to get a deal. You knew it wasn't likely that you'd find "new" stuff, in fact, most of what you found was a little worn but well-loved. Some guys had a "stall" set up every weekend, and you wondered what they'd be selling this week. Sometimes you'd meet someone completely new who had something you'd never seen, but you knew you had to have it! It was OK to haggle on price, but you were face to face and treated each other with respect even when you couldn’t reach a deal. The SBAF market shares some common traits with the flea market of yesterday. The most important one is that it's about community. Here is where friends buy, sell, and trade with friends. We offer great deals to friends so they can have a taste of excellent gear. We sell "good stuff" to new guys so they can grow in the hobby and save them from the HD-700. We often give equipment to friends in need. SBAF is not the place to be if you want to sell in high volume. Here is not the place to "flip" goods for profit. This not the place to take advantage of eager newbies. Don't use this place for an auction. There are plenty of places on the Internet for these types of selling: eBay, Head-Fi, and Audiogon to name a few. There is every expectation that the transaction will go super smoothly. How about an example: I sold bioniclephile a turntable. bioniclephile said that the motor mount rubber band broke in shipment. bioniclephile immediately sent me a photo so that I could see and understand EXACTLY what happened. That rubber band was old. I ordered a replacement to be sent to him immediately and directly (from the UK) at my expense. bioniclephile said I could have just given him the link! This spirit of mutual respect and honor, of smooth transactions, is expected here. It's not about the money; it's about friends taking care of their friends first. Anything less means you will lose flea market privileges. Just like the rest of the site, there is an expectation that you will know how to act. If you can't get along here in the market, we'll let you know quickly. Here are few guidelines to help you when you are buying or selling here: Sellers 1. No flipping - No one likes a flipper here. Flipping is buying with the purpose of selling for profit. If this is what you're after, great, just don't do it here. That goes for buying cheap here to sell for profit elsewhere... when you get caught you'll be done here. 2. Don't make your third post here a For Sale thread. If you're looking for a place to sell gear quickly and for a good price go to Head-Fi, Audiogon, or somewhere else... Get to know us first before you set up shop. 3. List a price - This isn't an auction site. If you don't know what your item is worth, ask around. There will be exceptions to this, but for the most part, throw a price up there for negotiation. 4. Leave your asking price up AFTER the sale. Don't delete it. Leaving the asking price helps other buyers checking market prices, reduces flipping, and is a decent courtesy. There are obvious exceptions and reasons to delete the asking price, but let it be the exception. 5. SBAF isn't an auction site - If you get an offer for your asking price, honor the offer. Don't start shopping for a buyer who'll pay more. This is common sense stuff, right? 6. If you're selling an epic amount of gear, it probably makes sense to make a single post that lists everything. It keeps the first-page cleaner so folks can shop quicker and sellers can sell faster too! 7. The so-called “Interest Check” - A subject of great debate! For now, Interest checks are OK but don't use them to fish for prices or run a subtle auction. 8. Be sure to report any buyers you have issues with to the head flea @shipsupt 9. Be reasonable with your "bumps." 10. Be sure to post SOLD on the thread and let the head flea @shipsupt know so we can keep the forum clean. 11. Use common sense. If the deal you're about to try and make isn't one you'd do with a good friend or family member, you might want to take it elsewhere. Buyer Beware Markets are not just made up of sellers. Buyers have responsibilities too! 1. Don't crap on for sale threads - You may not agree with a price or a product description, but as long as the seller is not dishonest in his representation leave it alone! If you've got a problem with the listing, suspect flipping, or just need to vent then send a note to the head flea @shipsupt. 2. Don't be a perpetual tire kicker. Don't jerk the chain of every seller on the forum if you're not buying. 3. If you make ridiculous offers don't expect much response from sellers. If you can't reach a deal, move on. 4. Once you make the deal, meet your end of it. Pay, trade, provide services or do whatever you promised. We expect the same from the seller. This is the stuff that's completely out of our hands, but we expect our community members to act responsibly. 5. DO speak up for good sellers. Leave feedback in their FS threads. DO let us know about bad sellers by contacting the head flea @shipsupt. 6. Try to keep the discussion focused on the sale of the item. There are other areas on the site for general discussions. All the typical legalize should go here. The bottom line is that all we are providing is some real estate on the internet for our friends to sell some gear to friends. The deal and all the risk that comes with it is for the buyer and seller. Good luck! I've seen some amazing gear sneak through our little market with little fanfare. If you're a buyer, you just might find a treasure. - shipsupt - head flea in the market ..