System Synergy - Special Sound

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  1. Luckbad

    Luckbad Traded in a unicorn for a Corolla

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    I have a notion of what that setup sounds like, except the main filter I'm using is Irish whiskey instead of red wine. Apparently enough that I didn't notice the DAC was askew until posting this.

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    That looks like a 3-4 finger filter. Respect.
     
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    Elnrik Super Friendly

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    If you like that filter, try this one. One of my favorites.
     
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    You were probably askew at a complementary angle.
     
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  6. atomicbob

    atomicbob dScope Yoda

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    Thunderstruck! This system rocks!

    Eitr - Modi MB - MCTH - Clear - small.jpg

    We are fortunate to have some exceptionally capable, inexpensive components available, though the Focal Clear in this system is rather expensive by comparison to the other components:
    Eitr - Modi MB - MCTH - Clear system list.png

    A less expensive alternative that retains much of the impressive performance as the system above though Sonarworks compensation is needed, in my opinion:
    Eitr - Modi MB - MCTH - HD650 system list.png

    I have spent many hours listening to both of these systems and will continue for some time into the future. Absorbing, immersive, non-fatiguing. Wow!


     
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    msommers High on Epipens

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    Of the various amps that you've listened to with the HD650 in this thread, what do you feel has the best synergy using Sonarworks?
     
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    Liquid Crimson or Zana Deux depending on mood, preference at the moment. MCTH will join the other two seen here as being in frequent rotation.
     
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    batriq Probably has made you smarter

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    @atomicbob That looks beautiful.

    I had to move the Saga out of the BiMB+Joti system, and I'm not enjoying it the same.

    I'm going to try BiMB+Vali2 next. One thing is that the Vali2 produces one pop sound in the headphones in the first ~30 seconds of warm up. Is that normal?
     
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    My Vali 2 does it as well so probably normal.
     
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    Vansen Gear Master (retiring)

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    I do love that MCTH, especially with Modi MB. It’ll be nice to give it a run with these at the end.
     
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    Carlos CPA Almost "Made"

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    Thanks very much for this newest post, @atomicbob!

    What are your thoughts on how this amp/DAC pairing would sound with the LCD2C?

    I am currently over the moon with my black Saga/Joti/Bifrost Multibit rig hooked up to the LCD2C. For listening to EDM and rock, this system has demonstrated tremendous synergy.

    However, I want to move the Saga/Joti/Bifrost Multibit to my home office and buy a PMx2 to use with this rig. I would move my BW2/Yggdrasil to the living room and use my modded HD800 and the PMx2 there.

    Thus, I would keep the LCD2C at my workplace office. Would these headphones work well with the CTH/Modi Multibit/Eitr? Or will I be disappointed by this pairing after hearing the LCD2C through Saga/Joti/Bifrost Multibit? If I recall correctly, @purr1n said that the CTH could color the sound too much with the LCD2C, and that an amp should ideally be very neutral to pair well with the LCD2C.

    Rather than the CTH, should I instead be considering getting the Cavalli Liquid Carbon v2.0 or the MassDrop x Alex Cavalli Liquid Carbon X to use with the LCD2C? Or is there another neutral amp that I should be considering?
     
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    Gaspasser Flatulence Maestro

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    I had this issue in Windows 10 with CanOpener in 64-bit JRMC and after some google-fu, I found out the culprit was my antivirus program was scanning the music files as they are being used. This bogs down the processor and causes the dropouts. I changed the settings of the antivirus program and no dropouts now.
     
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    Not being an Audeze fan I will let someone else answer this if they have heard the combination.
     
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    @bixby

    Maybe this could help?
     
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    @Elnrik

    It's fixed. Turns out I had Foobar file buffer set to zero so it was constantly pulling data over the network when the Ethernet switch sent a blast of images from the web to the main desktop, it overwhelmed tcpip for a few seconds causing a few drops. All is fine now that I have the buffer in place. No Drops at all.

    Better yet, experimenting with Foobars RamDisk component has brought some benefits to the sound as well.

    thanks
     
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    Gaspasser Flatulence Maestro

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    I am listening to LCD-2C with a Magni3/Bifrost Multibit/Eitr via a variation of Atomic Bob's IVS. I got CanOpener in lieu of Waves NX because it was on sale last week and I liked the effect alot. JRMC23/Reveal/CanOpener through LCD-2C really sounds great and fixes many of the shortcomings of this headphone. If you have the ability to try out IVS, I would strongly recommend it. Before IVS, I really enjoyed LCD-2C through Gungnir Multibit/Loki/Magni3. Marv said somewhere that Magni 3 is a good budget match for LCD-2C. I think it is much better than either Torpedo 3 or Vali 2 (both hybrids) with LCD-2C. Additionally, I ordered a CTH and I should get it soon, so I will be able to fully answer your original question next week.
     
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    Thanks for reporting back on this. I can't remember if I managed to solve this with the latest version of CanOpener.
     
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    I haven’t heard the LCD-2C yet, but strongly prefer the MCTH over the Magni 3 with my LCD-2.2F. So much so that I‘ve already sold the Magni 3. The MCTH is more engaging, has better sound staging and resolution - and better slam despite the Schiit being more powerful.
     
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    I'm by no means as experienced or capable of describing my system as others, but I thought I would contribute.
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    System notes:

    iMac running Audirvana Plus with the Waves F6 plugin and the Redline Monitor crossfeed.

    The plugins are what ultimately helped me pull together the entire system. The EQ came with some decent pre-configured profiles that I then tweaked to please my admittedly damaged hearing. (Stay away from explosives and other loud noises, kids). Redline monitor is the best crossfeed for my needs because it is subtle and really easy to set. I can't begin to tell you how many hours I spent trying to get TB Isone to sound good. Isone just has too many options. These components play well together and reveal many subtle details in the source recordings.

    I use USB out to a Modi gen 1 and then to a Sys run backwards (volume maxed) to switch to either of my two amps:


    Amps:

    TTVJ FET-A Headphone Amp - this is a Pete Millett designed amp. I believe only 10 or so were made and sold exclusively through TTVJ. I enjoy this amp for critical listening and it also drives my M-audio monitors. It is a great solid state amp and plays well with all my headphones. I consider it an upgrade over the Headroom Maxx (original) and Asgard I.

    Cavalli Tube Hybrid Amp - I really enjoy just listening to music with this amp. It's enchanting, especially with the other components of my set up.


    Headphones:

    Beyer DT880 250 ohm modified and re-cabled by Headroom. I know others may not be a fan of these cans for several sound reasons. They were my first step into mid-fi and sound great to my aging ears with the plugins I have. I prefer these for classical, country, acoustic, or indie music.

    Mad Dog Pro. Comfortable, closed headphones that have a surprisingly good sound for a mid-fi can. I bought these several years ago off Headfi and they have a balanced connector. I prefer these for rock, metal, industrial, or other bass heavy music.


    Closing Notes:

    I hope my notes and impressions are helpful. Please feel free to ask any questions and I'll respond as best as I can. I've been on this headphone journey since the first days of Headroom when I started with a Bithead Plus and Sennheiser earbuds. Thanks.
     

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