The Game of Thrones Thread (With Spoilers)

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  1. Mithrandir41

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    The unsullied are castrated, not true dickless eunuchs.
     
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    FWIW, No-Worm was clearly using his tongue skillz in S7E2.

    In the autistic-pedantic-geek world it maybe noted that childhood castration can result in some side effects that would negatively impact warrior desirable characteristics.

    After puberty castration doesn't look great either.
     
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    Apparently Greyworm was still able to thrust, and Messandei seemed OK with it. Maybe she got his mojo going...
     
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    I'll have to watch that again. I thought he started with the kissing and immediately proceeded to go downtown.
     
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    ButtUglyJeff Stunningly beautiful IRL

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    He clearly has the beans even if he doesn't have the frank...
     
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    Well, I will have to watch again to confirm
     
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    @ultrabike : I just rewatched that scene, and he just lies on top of her. No thrusting to speak of. It was all oral, and the point goes to you!
     
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    He is "castrated" then. Maybe is one of those Valyrian language deals where things are a bit ambiguous. Like the prince thing which can also mean princess.
     
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    BTW, I remembered how the game allusion comes to mind when Varys and Baelish start to war of words at the Iron Throne. Now:

    1. Varys is coming from the south with all the might of the Lord of Light. And Baelish is now at the north with all the might of the Great Other.
    2. Varys wants the good of the realm (whatever that means). And Baelish wants power just cuz.
    3. Both seem to give negative fucks about magic and gods.
    Wouldn't it be crazy if Varys was actually the Lord of Light (via possession or whatever). And Baelish was similarly the Great Other?!
     
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    They could have changed it for the show, but I'm fairly certain they removed the full set of twig'n'berries in the books.
     
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    *sigh*

    The podcasts I listen to were obsessed with Greyworm's junk (or lack thereof), too. Worst scene in the episode and it seems to be all people want to talk about :p

    Regarding Tyrion:

    He was over his head across the sea...he didn't understand the people and, yes, his plans all failed miserably. He gets the Seven Kingdoms, though, and his plan wasn't bad at all. But, as we've seen in the past, cute plans don't always work...bad luck or a single misstep can send everything crumbling down.

    The Euron thing had nothing to do with tactics, and everything to do with having no clue he was there. It's hard to plan for something you don't expect. And, there you have my biggest grips as of late...no WAY he built that many ships so quickly. But, at this point you pretty much have to suspend all notion of reality in regards to time, so whatever.

    The Sansa/Jon stuff is just stupid. She's a spoiled brat...always has been and always will be. And, for whatever reason, Jon seems unable to communicate a coherent plan to his "co-leader" before making big announcements in front of all of the northern rulers. Thank goodness Jon is headed out the door. I'm hopeful that the Sansa/Arya/Bran reunion will be a little more interesting.

    Speaking of reunions, I'm curious to see how the Davos/Melisandre meeting will go and what Dany will make of that.

    Surprisingly, I've found the Sam/Oldtown stuff some of the more interesting bits. His conversations with Ebrose have been great, especially their episode 1 conversation which echoed today's political climate and "thinking" so well. The greyscale cure being banned had nothing to do with the difficulty of the procedure and everything to do with the fact that it's so contagious. I'm assuming they don't understand this fully, and have therefore banned it out of fear. If Sam knows what we know, he goes in there with a full HazMat suit on.

    Anyway, I'm still enjoying it, but felt episode 2 was a huge step down and I'm afraid we'll be getting more of this. They're in such a hurry, they can't afford to really take their time with table setting and character development like they have in the past. Fingers crossed that they prove me wrong. Battles are boring and we're about to get a lot more of them.
     
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    When I imagine all this as a space opera, it makes better sense.

    Euron built a smaller fleet with cloaking devices. He was able to pass undetected the periphery ships protecting Yara's flagship. Euron then deployed space jaws or space penis drill to breach the hull of Yara's flagship.

    Cersei's weird mentat showed Cersei his latest R&D, a space laser capable of penetrating the armor of super space whales that spewed plasma or space spiders that shit out slicer beams.

    Greyworm has sex using special VR / mental hookup thingies. Or perhaps Miss attaches a removable cyber penis.

    Sam realizes the cure to space-scale is by not using tricoders or advanced tech. It's by using the barbaric ancient ways of surgical knives and iodine.
     
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    LOL Da-Fuq? HA HA HA! I'll guess I will accept this idea! :cool:
     
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    I agree about Tyrion, Euron, and Sam.

    I also agree about Sansa/Jon. But I think Sansa does have some manipulative skills at this point. But we shall see.

    I did enjoy S7E2 as well. More than a step down, I think expectations are higher at this point.

    Maybe Euron was finally able to dock his already large, but poorly maintained feet. He retrofitted all of his capital ships with small superlasers and large ion cannons. Additionally, full cloaking devices were added. A large compliment of fast, well armored/armed, clocked scout ships with covert long range communications were quickly put together with new ship-yard technology that Yara, now on the run, did not have access to. Furthermore, Yara was unawares of the size of his original dis-repaired fleet (now fully operational and upgraded), and the superior capabilities of his new cloaking devices.

    Saucy indeed has a new long range seeking missile capable of drilling adamantium and unobtanium. The missiles carry a full compliment of dark matter war-heads capable of collapsing energy beings. Sentient light phoenixes the size of medium size stars don't stand a chance.

    No-Worm can plug into the matrix network and make Miss sing.

    Sam discovered the now lost arts of DNA manipulation. He can now use precision femto-bots to create RNA-modifiers, which in turn need to be carefully applied to skin affected by the necroplague virus, which does not have a known conventional cure. However, RNA-modifiers most be dealt carefully, given the aggressive toxic nature of these substances. In fact, RNA-modifier research was abandoned after a full galaxy had to be annihilated by synthetic black-hole devices. An RNA-modifier laboratory accident could not be contained, and w/o full annihilation it would have resulted in the destruction of all life in the universe.
     
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    LOL! I know there are severe logic flaws in Game of Thrones. But I like the character development. There are a few things that are somewhat well written/played.

    I also find some interesting parallels with the history of the Iberian peninsula during the 11th century. And I love dragons, wolves, wizards, and necromancers (Diablo style).
     
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    Oh, sure she does, but her experience(s) have pushed towards the side of cruel and dishonest manipulation.

    Jon was right when he pointed out that she almost admired Cersei in a way. And, her willingness to talk about kicking families out of their homes in the dead of winter with the child leaders right there in the room pretty much proves it.

    But, it's hard to predict what she'll do because the show has done a pretty terrible job of giving her character any consistency. She does mind-bogglingly stupid things (like not telling Jon about the Vale coming to the rescue or undermining him in an important meeting) and then turns around and tells Jon he's a great leader and shoots Littlefinger down without giving him a chance to talk.

    There's no telling at this point, and I'm honestly beyond caring about that particular character. Not that I ever liked her in the first place.
     
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    I also liked Sansa the least among all the Starks. But probably of all the Starks, she is the one that has suffered the most, perhaps due to her ways and character. She is also was the first of Starks to loose her dire wolf.

    I think we have seen what Arya, Bran, and Jon can do with their attributes. Sansa, not so much. We may or may not see.
     
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    I think that at this point in the series we have had all the character development that we are going to see. The limited number of episodes left to go almost force D&D to push forward with more visual action driven episodes. I expect that the large roster of secondary characters and subplots will be whittled down considerably before the end of this season.

    I would predict that all the internecine conflicts in the 7 kingdoms will be resolved this season with the fight of team Jon+Dany against the White Walkers being the main focus for the final season.

    On the topic of Sansa, I agree that for most of GOT she has not been a likable character, but her story arc has provided a character that has actually developed and matured over time to someone that is no longer a naive, shallow person, but to someone that understands how the cruel world of Westeros actually works. I think she loves Jon, but now considers him as being somewhat naive in his decisions, based upon her experiences with the Lannisters and Boltons.
     
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    Yup, I think I'm not being totally fair with Sansa.

    She was naive, a brat, and a self important aristocrat in her younger years. But she was forced to pretend, act, bear abuse, hide, plan, and so on just to survive. To a level that I don't think even Baelish had to.

    Her handling of the Battle of the Bastards might be questionable to some. But I feel she pretty much won that war. And her handling of Ramsey was borderline artistic.

    I'm actually eagerly awaiting on how she will handle Baelish.
     
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    I think there is some foreshadowing that Sansa and Tyrion will eventually end up together by the end of the series. This would have a lovely sense of irony given how much she hated Tyrion when she was married off to him and in spite of her feelings, how much he loved her.
     

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