The RobS Yggdrasil Hate Thread

Discussion in 'Tales from the Bully Pulpit' started by RobS, Jan 23, 2020.

  1. RobS

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    Why because I don't like your precious DAC? That a few folks here are butthurt over my impressions on it?
     
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    No, that's not the reason of my dislike @RobS, for example i didn't care much about Yggi 1 either and preferred, unlike most, Gungnir. It's more about the childish way you are portraying your thoughts. Everyone has a right to an opinion but having a right does not mean being immature, in a tantrum-ish way, about it.
     
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    To be fair, he really seemed like he was answering/defending his position because others were so miffed. They just couldn't accept he didn't like it and needed to belabour the point for what, 7 pages now.

    At least this is the end of flogging this dead horse.
     
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    "only kids younger than 9 can play"

    I have posted my thoughts and followed up by describing in more detail what I was hearing, to the best of my ability. Folks clearly don't agree and that is OK. If you think my impressions suck that is OK. You won't hurt my feelings. Saying "the more I listen, the more I think its garbage" really irked some folks. Is your identity tied up in a metal box and you get hurt when some random fucker on the internet shits on it?

    I am glad I got to hear the Yggdrasil. It's been something I have long wanted to hear after how heavily this thing was hyped for years. I wanted to love the thing but I ended up going back to what I had before. I don't think the Yggdrasil or any DAC is immune from criticism. I strongly dislike it with the speakers I have. C'est la vie.
     
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    @RobS Have a few album examples where the ya2 does not work for you? Just curious.

    I have a cringy video (to experiment/document) of my system playing vinyl in the phono cartridge thread, have not done one w/Yggdrasil yet-- what if you did a quick video C2/Yggdrasil?

    Criticism is good, I want you to try and capture the C2 for us now, and like I said curious, not defending the damn dac. -- Sometimes you can get the gist of the sound & room. Edit: not gonna go back & forth on this, already too much noise.
     
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    What would a video achieve?
     
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    @RobS - I'm not doubting your findings and I'm sure this is what you've heard.

    However, you've mentioned that this is a 2nd hand unit. What are the chances that there's something odd or different compared to a brand new, out-of-the-box Ygg.A2?

    Having said that, it's been said several times that the DAC doesn't have the biggest impact on a total system. Perhaps that's the case with my setup and I've only heard what I choose to hear. A discography of your demo music would be revealing, and I'd appreciate it if you could share some tracks.

    Thanks,
     
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    Nothing is immune to criticism but, as far as i can tell, we have some strong opinions, or stances, from both sides.

    It seems that some people don't like to heard/read criticism about something they love, which, in this case, would be the ones that "reject" the fact that you don't like it and boy did they get their pants rattled.
    On the other hand, some people, like yourself, have a hard time remaining calm and objective when facing that type of scenario and it just seems your way of expressing yourself became ...let's use "bolder", aka negative.

    Maybe you always express yourself like that but to me it just sounds, or in this case reads, out of proportion ranting.

    Both parties disagree and will keep disagreeing and it's something all have to accept and move on.
     
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    No, because you've been producing more noise than signal.
     
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    He does tend to post a lot of noise, doesn't he? I haven't been on the forum as much as I'd like over the past year but the waffling and noise from some folks is tedious. Everything is the best until it's not with brash hyperbole thrown in to mask the lack of experience in critical listening and understanding measurements.
     
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    Alright @RobS, your original impressions will remain in the Yggdrasil thread.

    But between yesterday and today, it has been three full pages of your unabated hate for the Yggdrasil, and anyone that feels otherwise.

    You can continue with your passionate Yggdrasil loathing here. Or better yet, push away the keyboard, have some nice dinner, and come back at it a few days later.

    Believe me, there is so much more to life than loving or hating the Yggdrasil.
     
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