Verum Audio - Exciting high performance DIY planar

Discussion in 'Headphone Measurements' started by cskippy, May 24, 2018.

  1. Garuspik

    Garuspik Tovarisch Ukrainian Terminator MOT - Verum

    Friend
    Joined:
    May 6, 2018
    Likes Received:
    2,357
    Dislikes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    Ukraine
    Wow! I like your photo. Feeling like I'm in good company ;)
     
    WHO23 and bilboda like this.
  2. bilboda

    bilboda Friend

    Friend
    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2016
    Likes Received:
    439
    Dislikes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Location:
    Miama
    You are in good company with these phones.
    I purchased impedance adapters a long time ago and forgot about them.
    I Just started using them with different amps.
    The Crack is OTL and 120 ohm output. I am using a 150 ohm adapter and they have been on for several days. I just haven't needed anything else, music, movies, games.
    I love the open stage. Verite is excellent but the room has walls. Verum is more like being outdoors and refreshing.
    With the SW51+, I use the 80 ohm adapter and again it is an improvement.
    I don't need one with the phonitor e.

    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32860270299.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.139c4c4dJF3rMl
    [​IMG]
     
  3. Magnetostatic_Tubephile

    Magnetostatic_Tubephile Friend

    Friend
    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2017
    Likes Received:
    525
    Dislikes Received:
    42
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    GoogleChrome, EU
    Quoting two most helpful posts of this thread from my perspective.

    1) Applying felt on magnets as per @Garuspik helped to kill tendency for unnatural brightness that bothered me at times, with some music. No more artificial reflections... well, mostly anyway. :)

    2) Using Ether angled pads further neutralized the frequency response and corrected haziness and greyness in mids. The pads preferred by @cskippy are close second but only the Mrspeakers pads I feel truly and fully addressed the above concerns. Basically, true non-perf leather all the way for me. Note: The angled nature also somewhat improved on comfort and imaging ability of the cans.

    In terms of timbre (overall character/colour), Verum 1 is now on par with my PMx2s = the only headphone I ever heard was satisfactory in this regard. And I heard a lot of them. This is mindblowing in my book. PMx2s are somewhat warmer tonally but they both give similar impression timbre-wise now.

    In terms of tonality, I just sold LCD2 Classic w/ Vegan pads - my favourite in terms of frequency response. I would argue the Audezes were still more accurate in higher mids (more HD650-like) but overall the modded Verum 1 is just t here "enough". It just feels overall (more) uncoloured now while Audezes were a touch warmer and nasal than dead-neutral.

    If you have issues with your Verum One similar to those described by me, the above suggestions might actually help to tackle them.
     
    Last edited: Oct 17, 2019
  4. Garuspik

    Garuspik Tovarisch Ukrainian Terminator MOT - Verum

    Friend
    Joined:
    May 6, 2018
    Likes Received:
    2,357
    Dislikes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    Ukraine
    Verum 1 are so ... let's say good :D cause I'm constantly reading community suggestions and opinions. It's my shame that some percentage of first batch was defective, but lesson learned and people received warranty service and free leather pads (that were created also after community suggestions) as an "excuse me"
    Yes, as @Magnetostatic_Tubephile said felt mod is rather effective. I didn't implement it in first generation cause it's time consumable. But anyone can but felt on self-adhesive tape, cut it on 3mm strips and glue on magnets.
    Now I'm working on 2 projects:

    1) Verum 2 - it will be an orthdynamic headphone (Verum 1 is isodynamic )but I'm not ready to speak about it yet.
    2) Verum 1 mk2 - a version where almost all advices will be implemented. The main difference will be a headband.
    It will be ~40 grams lighter (and that's significant, believe me), more comfortable and MUCH more good looking ;)

    And some photo of freshly from the oven new headband.

    [​IMG]
     
  5. muths66

    muths66 Rando

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2019
    Likes Received:
    1
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Location:
    singapore
    I have done felt on it and very like it. Can the new headband use on verum1?
     
  6. Dzerh

    Dzerh Friend

    Friend
    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2018
    Likes Received:
    235
    Dislikes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Location:
    San Ramon, CA, US
    Sorry, unclear what you tried to say. "isodynamic" sounds better for me, in several ways :)
     
  7. Garuspik

    Garuspik Tovarisch Ukrainian Terminator MOT - Verum

    Friend
    Joined:
    May 6, 2018
    Likes Received:
    2,357
    Dislikes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    Ukraine
    Orthdynamic - planar with concentric ring magnets.
    Isodynamic - planar with bar magnets.
     
  8. Garuspik

    Garuspik Tovarisch Ukrainian Terminator MOT - Verum

    Friend
    Joined:
    May 6, 2018
    Likes Received:
    2,357
    Dislikes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    Ukraine
    Sure. And I'll sell it at self-cost to all Verum 1 owners. I personally hate when I buy some thing and in a couple of month manufacturer release new better version with the same price. So when it'll be finished i'll send several units for a test and then sell it for 40-50$ including shipping.
     
    obsiCO, muths66, Jinxy245 and 5 others like this.
  9. Ash1412

    Ash1412 Friend

    Friend
    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2015
    Likes Received:
    485
    Dislikes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    63
    You're the first one to make that distinction I've seen on the interwebs. All of them consider both the same. Thanks for clarifying.
     
  10. Garuspik

    Garuspik Tovarisch Ukrainian Terminator MOT - Verum

    Friend
    Joined:
    May 6, 2018
    Likes Received:
    2,357
    Dislikes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    Ukraine
    It's widely used definition:

    [​IMG]
     
    obsiCO, Richgard, Sqveak and 5 others like this.
  11. Armaegis

    Armaegis Friend

    Friend BWC
    Joined:
    Sep 27, 2015
    Likes Received:
    3,664
    Dislikes Received:
    2
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Location:
    Winnipeg
    From what I recall (though I am not a reliable source), the ortho vs iso distinction has been understood that way in the Euro block for a while. It's mostly the US that has mushed the meanings together.
     
  12. Dzerh

    Dzerh Friend

    Friend
    Joined:
    Apr 1, 2018
    Likes Received:
    235
    Dislikes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    43
    Location:
    San Ramon, CA, US
    wasn't "Orthodynamic" Yamaha's trademark?
     
  13. Garuspik

    Garuspik Tovarisch Ukrainian Terminator MOT - Verum

    Friend
    Joined:
    May 6, 2018
    Likes Received:
    2,357
    Dislikes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    Ukraine
    I don't know :eek: Anyway, i'm not inspired by Yamaha. Here is Verum 2 magnetic system (one side)

    [​IMG]
     
    cskippy, edd, Jinxy245 and 15 others like this.
  14. Walderstorn

    Walderstorn Friend

    Friend
    Joined:
    Mar 20, 2016
    Likes Received:
    531
    Dislikes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    Europe
    To be honest i prefered the pre fazer audezes. I think that change was "too much" for my ears. I will try "garuspiking" them only partially and see how that goes.
     
  15. Jerry

    Jerry Friend

    Friend
    Joined:
    Apr 8, 2017
    Likes Received:
    763
    Dislikes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    Asia
    I think I will skip the Verum 1 mk2 and go straight to Verum 2 instead
     
    tommytakis, Ash1412, Golmang and 2 others like this.
  16. Magnetostatic_Tubephile

    Magnetostatic_Tubephile Friend

    Friend
    Joined:
    Dec 27, 2017
    Likes Received:
    525
    Dislikes Received:
    42
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    GoogleChrome, EU
    Applying felt on this is going to be pain in the ass. :)
     
  17. Garuspik

    Garuspik Tovarisch Ukrainian Terminator MOT - Verum

    Friend
    Joined:
    May 6, 2018
    Likes Received:
    2,357
    Dislikes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    Ukraine
    Yes, but... It'll be my pain in the ass ;)
     
    WHO23, obsiCO, Jinxy245 and 6 others like this.
  18. muths66

    muths66 Rando

    Joined:
    Aug 4, 2019
    Likes Received:
    1
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    3
    Location:
    singapore
    sorry able see the picture.
     
    Last edited: Oct 21, 2019
  19. Garuspik

    Garuspik Tovarisch Ukrainian Terminator MOT - Verum

    Friend
    Joined:
    May 6, 2018
    Likes Received:
    2,357
    Dislikes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    Ukraine
    Thinking about some redesign along with a new headband. What's your opinion?

    декоративная решетка NEW.jpg
     
    wadec22, oneoverzero, obsiCO and 14 others like this.
  20. monacelli

    monacelli Friend

    Friend
    Joined:
    Jul 23, 2017
    Likes Received:
    789
    Dislikes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    93
    Location:
    PNW
    I think these look pretty cool! Two thoughts/considerations come to mind. The first is that the design may be a bit too evocative of the Rosson Audio Design RAD-0 (very similar geometrical motif). The second is that the texture may be too much of a good thing. That is, it might clash with the aqua print on the cups. I actually like the “V” design on the grills of the Mk-1. Maybe there is a way you could freshen that up while retaining some of the classic Mk-1 design cues? Of course, this feedback is merely my opinion as a prospective Mk-2 buyer~
     

Share This Page