Wiim Pro Measurements - the horror, the horror + crazed fanboi

Either your expensive DAC sucks, you have crappy hearing, or haven't tried using a better streamer, like a Wiim Ultra. I doubt you have tried something better.

 

No. We take effort to compare and report results discussing sonic traits. Sometimes this is done with blind testing, oftentimes sighted.

Your retort is lazy. It's obvious you have not performed any comparisons as you avoided a very pertinent and serious question - whether you have done any comparisons. You deflected and this is telling. As your response lacks specifics and effort, no regular reader here will believe you.

 

Ya guys know what is really strange? That this Wiim Pro product has sooo many ardent defenders (see the YT comments too). I've crapped on many many other $100 to $10k+ pieces of gear. People just move on. SBAF readers here get it. Hey, I happen to like stuff that other people think is shit, not a big deal. I may even explain why I like it while recognizing its deficiencies. I've never run into any piece of gear that ticks all the boxes.

It's like Wiim hired a small army to scour the Internet to defend their crappy product. It's like the Wiim Pro is perfect or is holy, and cannot be disliked or criticized. SBAF is small and basically not even on the radar. It blows me away that the Wiim marketing defense army found this thread. It's like "Wow".

 

So what exactly have you tested?

I have compared the Wii Pro SPDIF output with a variety of streamers and transports Schiit Urd, Lumin U1, Shanling ET3, Pi2AES, Pi2 Mercury, Holo Red, Theta Data III, Marantz 5005 (modded), and few others I have forgotten. Systems are either what's in the YT video (passive JBL 705s, Kara, Wotan) or my custom 45 EC amp using a variety of headphones. DACs are Burl B2 and Yggdrasil MIL and Gungnir G2. The Wiim Pro wasn't even close. The SPDIF basically sounded like something was very wrong. Lindsay who is new at this even noticed. I am honestly curious, trying to ascertain what exactly what SPDIF transports you have compared it to. "not to mention other brands of devices" just doesn't cut it.

We are not asking you to provide evidence per se. We are asking that if you post here, please try to be part of the community and its customs, communications style, expectations for assertations, etc. If it's not worth your time then please go elsewhere - noting it does seem totally worth your time to reply to every other post. I think you will find this community far more welcoming if you at least make an effort.

I do have a legit question for you. Is the Wiim Ultra's SPDIF output better sounding? This is a unit I would like to review, but I have concerns.

I don't need the snide passive aggressive stuff here - this is the second time that you have done this - these rhetorical devices don't work here. I have asked you to read the new member intro articles and digest its contents. You have refused. It has become very obvious and that you are in the employ of Wiim.

In turn, I would say that it's funny - because it is you who is hardly making your case and actually making the reputation of Wiim far worse. You do realize this is reason I have not banned you. I get that you love Wiim and do work for them. However people who are associated with a product often respond to criticism of a product along the lines of: "I'm sorry you don't like it" with grace instead of join sort-of-a-underground audio forum for the specific purpose of arguing in a single thread on a product of their beloved manufacturer. (And at worst, it's like "FU" behind the scenes along with "loaner cancelled")

You have a total of 30 posts and 29 on them are in this thread (with one brief intro). Why are you even here? As I mentioned above, we have an expectations that people who post here want to be part of a larger community (we don't all like the same things). You say you have heard all Wiim products, yet you refuse to volunteer and help guide us through the Wiim product line, even something along the lines of: "I get you don't like the Pro, but check out the Ultra - it's better".

Very strange indeed.

 

And that's perfectly fine. The Wiim Pro works great for the cheap self powered monitors in my garage gym. For this application and its ease of use with iPhone, I whole heartedly recommend the Wiim Pro. In fact, it would be my first choice.