Yggdrasil MIB was: Jason+Marv Pyrate Edition 11001B

Definitely open to buying MIL-B and doing the chassis upgrade

I have an A2 Yggdrasil with the original chassis and was told, when reaching out to support about the idea of upgrading to Yggdrasil+ chassis for the purposes of swapping between boards...

paraphrasing but what I was told in reply

that Schiit doesn't recommend swapping out the boards cuz there are no user-serviceable parts inside - would love for Schiit to own the upgradability and to provide instructions on this - I'd love to collect more of the flavors - I guess its kind of a hush hush at your own risk kind of thing but would like official instructions

 

? I'm talking about Yggdrasil+

Quoting 'schiit' - swapping boards comes "with great ease if you have an Yggdrasil+."

 

I can completely understand them not being willing to take on the cost/risk of poor swaps and openly encouraging them. I know of no other companies which currently offer a user upgradable DAC via a plug in part (encouraged or not).

I understand that folks wants them to own the upgradability factor but with a unique feature like this - we have to accept some risk if you self - upgrade.

 

Some of us would accept the risk.

 

I'm just confused about this - so is it worth upgrading to Yggdrasil+ because of ease of swapping the boards or not? I can accept that if I screw up it is my fault. But how is it done? Seems like there is this hint hint with Yggdrasil+ about swapping but no follow through on direction

 

You send your Yggdrasil, it comes back with a new chassis.
From then on, upgrading cards is something you can do yourself at great ease. You also get NOS mode and a remote.

if you don’t need NOS, future upgrade ability , or a remote, you need to determine if a cosmetic upgrade is worth it to you.

makes sense?

 

No - because Schiit tells you not to do that. They won't support you. I don't see any posts about it. I hope you become a friend soon.

 

Cillian Murphy had nothing to do and might as well have been blazed the whole movie. Downey jr was Keanu reeves wooden until He got to be Civil War Tony Stark towards the end. Who kept those line readings? Nolan thought he was Paul Schrader here but Chain Reaction with Keanu Reeves is a more entertaining piece of shit. I felt like the director and composer watched American Gigolo and Mishima together, enjoyed them, but the entire films went over the heads.

 

I see what you mean. The website is not clear. However, see in https://www.schiit.com/products/yggdrasil-upgrade:

“This upgrade involves changing the chassis--as in, we take your Yggdrasil in, swap all the boards over to a new chassis, add a new front panel board, test everything, burn it in, make sure everything is good, and send it back to you. This also means it has to come back to us, or to a handful of qualified distributor. Sorry about that, but with this change, you're pretty much set for any change we might make in the future, and your Yggdrasil+ won't have to come back to us again.”

The contradiction I think comes from the card upgrade page https://www.schiit.com/products/Yggdrasil-upgrades:

“
Other Installation Options
You can also select to have your upgrades shipped to you. Please note that by selecting this option, you are saying, "Yes, I am, or know, a competent electronics technician who does not need hand-holding for this installation, and I will not allow an inexperienced person to perform the upgrade, since I understand there are no user-serviceable parts inside." “

@schiit may want to distinguish upgrade ability of cards statement when Yggdrasil+ is in the mix in the card upgrade page.

 

This is now a pointless conversation. You should feel free to not upgrade and save your dollars. After all it's only a different flavor.

Edit: ignore me, I get frustrated too quickly. I agree that the difference and value of the + is open to interpretation and others can have different opinions and ability to self-upgrade.

 

Schiit has always said this. It’s a liability thing for them. There’s a ton of unofficial instructions for installing boards at home online, here and elsewhere. If you have specific questions about how to do it that you feel aren’t covered in those instructions, I’m sure someone can help you. But honestly, if you feel unsure enough that you’re worried about screwing something up, you’re not someone that should be doing it.

 

This will be my last post on the matter - I don't think you all read my original post with link to the cavalier quotation about the ease of changing boards from Schiit. - the just reminded me that when I emailed schiit in the process about sending my Yggdrasil to them for the upgrade but they told me they don't advice users to switch boards. End of story. I would simply like a YouTube video or some instructions along with 'hey if it breaks it is on you'. I thought it was interesting to note the discrepancies.

No big deal

 

I think there are 2 things being referred to here.

1. Boards swap, this is just something people do and Schiit sells the boards to you. That being said, I believe if the user breaks anything in the process, it's not covered by warranty. I went through A1 -> GS (they sold me the ROM) and LIM, with understanding that I should be capable of doing it on my own. The USB upgrade also applies. (mine being Gen 2 -> Gen 5 -> Unison)
2. Yggdrasil chassis upgrade. This is what Schiit doesn't want us to do ourselves, ie not gonna sell us just the frame, nada!

 

Respectfully disagree (but not to the point of clicking the button ) — “No user serviceable parts inside” vs value prop of new chassis description are inconsistent in the site. I think @Johnny the Nose is just seeking clarity…

 

This is getting pretty tedious now, but I guess I’ll add that for those that are asking for Yggdrasil+ at home, it’s not just the chassis they swap. Schiit has to program the new front panel board via one of the main board’s RJ45 jacks. Hard to get that done at home.

 

Interesting to get this forum moving with an observation of a lack of clarity, that's all