HD800 "French Mod" aka "SuperDupont Resonator"

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  1. OJneg

    OJneg The Most Insufferable

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    Great to know. And who said our ears were broken? :D
     
  2. SKiring

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    Well at this point, if you're still adding people beyond the current limit, I'd like to be on the list too @sorrodje.

    :) I think the impressions speak for themselves, I've made multiple people happy already with the Shure tips and this would only improve it further. Very good stuff all and all.
     
  3. sorrodje

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    Great news. I'm eagerly looking forward your results especially compared to HD800S. Actually my results were promising but if yours are even better, it would be a huge reward for the time I spent on this.
     
  4. zerodeefex

    zerodeefex SBAF's Imelda Marcos

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    Crap!!! I have your Absorber mod too. You need to use them both. It's amazing together.
     
  5. sorrodje

    sorrodje Carla Bruni's other lover - Friend

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    Updated list.

    0a. @purrin Sent
    0b. @OJneg Received
    0c. @Tyll Hertsens Received

    IF Purrin's and OJ's measurements are OK then I'll send a pair of absorber to the above list :

    1. Frenchbat Received
    2. Logscool Received
    3. M3ntal
    4. kevnin
    5. Joshmorr
    6. Wfojas
    7. MrTie
    8. Hifi01170
    9. KurtSvensson
    10. EraserXIV
    11. Serious.

    Let's wait Tyll's and other guys measurements but seems the Beta will end quickier than I previously thought and we'll be able to open production and distribution of the fuperDupont® Absorber. I'll take more order then ;)
     
  6. Maxx134

    Maxx134 Dunning–Kruger effect poster boy

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    Haha!
    I told you guys the 800S is inferior!
    :D
     
  7. SKiring

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    @zerodeefex I have the SBAF absorber material being shipped thanks to a friend via Discord, so when you upload the template, I'll make sure @sorrodje gets a pair including cork to test out for himself and add to his measurements. Since it's EU shipping it will probably take a big strain of y'all. :)

    Exciting freaking times for the modding community truly, really looking forward to seeing the full mod from absorber to resonator to damping in action on the measurements.
     
  8. sorrodje

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    Seems it's now the time to open a donation button to help me to fund the plane ticket for California... would be fun if that mod helped me to meet US friends :D
     
  9. zerodeefex

    zerodeefex SBAF's Imelda Marcos

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    You should actually do this. Have Marv organize a mini meet in SoCal and crowdfund a ticket.
     
  10. sorrodje

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    So many friends I'd like to meet IRL . would be awesome :) .

    Btw, let's wait what tyll and Marv and early adpoters have to tell us . Moreover, there's still work to organize and produce reliably a few dozens of SD absorbers.
     
  11. Tyll Hertsens

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    I'll mention I've had a little brainstorm and think there may be another way. I'll be trying it this morning...fingers crossed.

    FWIW, I did get a flashlight and managed to have a good look at the HD 800S structure. Don't know if this is a repeat of info, but the Sennheiser resonator has no damping material in it at all. Looks to be a high Q resonator. (Meaning it should act as a narrow band acoustic trap.)
     
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    Monsieur Sorrodje, please add me to the list for the resonator. Thanks
     
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    Very interested to see your article, Tyll. Maybe I'll sell the hd800s that's on it's way to me as soon as it gets here to go back to the original hd800 haha
     
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    @Tyll Hertsens : I did check myself with a flashlight and actually I saw the resonator is kinda "empty" but I wouldn't swear there is no damping material in the hole. I wasn't able to see perfectly. we thought first it was a kind of cylinder with a 7mm hole but it's not. It's a cavity and this cavity matters.

    Nevertheless, I tried a simple round of paper with a 6mm hole , glued over the mesh to close the hole in the middle.. Results was not that good. I tried open cell foam instead of felt and the results wasn't as good as with the felt.... and so on. For sure, I didn"t try everything but I swear: I tried a lot of options. Me and my friend hubert who worked as well on this absorber agreed to think damping material was necessary at least for our DIY "resonator" . Maybe we're wrong. In my measuremens I definitely saw 5 and 6 khz drop when I began to use the felt ring and drop even one step more when I thought to close the bottom. And guess what ? I used 1mm creato at the bottom and it wasn't as good as the fuckin' paper.

    In the SD absorbers I sent last week, every part matters actually but I'm almost convinced the Senn One is a real resonator whereas ours is a kind of absorber that not use the same principle. Measurements seem to show same results though and the current SD is quite easy to reproduce and to DIY. that's was the specs I imposed on myself.

    What surprises me is the fact you measured less distorsion in the modded HD800 compared to the HD800S. with mine, HD800 modded exhibits more distorsion. but I trust more your method than mine.
     
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  15. Tyll Hertsens

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    One problem we're going to run into here is unit to unit variation on the HD 800 cans. Sennheiser is pretty good at that, but your mod is so close to the HD 800S that small variations unit-to-unit will blur our understanding, I think.

    Lots more to do, full results Friday.
     
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    Awesome Sorrodje!
     
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    Are you allowed to tinker with that HD800S at all Tyll? I'd be interested to see the measurement without Sennheisers resonator in there, assuming it's not glued in place.
     
  18. TMoney

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    I can't wait. The only way to tell the story of the 800S properly is to tell the story of the modded 800. The review sounds like its going to be amazing.

    I do hope Senn makes Axel Grell or someone else on the development side available for you to consult before you publish. It'd be interesting to hear their commentary.
     
  19. Ali-Pacha

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    Tyll, title proposal for your feedback : "German engineering meets french flair" |\/|

    Ali
     
  20. Tyll Hertsens

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    Ha ha ha ha ha! I might just do something like that...except I've been warned before that article titles should be good for Google search, but I'll try to work it in.
     
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